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Gay hanging in Iran: Atrocities and impersonations

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A must read on lies and how the media/activists will push them. (h/t: J)

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Everybody on earth knows that last week a deal on Iran’s nuclear program was announced.  Everybody also knows that this apparent step toward peace launched a new stage in an old war: of propaganda. Proponents praise the possibility of a historic opening. Opponents — who include Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the Republican Party — warn of disaster.  Both sides want to expand their constituencies. In Western countries, gay communities — small but politically influential — are more and more the target for just this courtship and recruitment.

The right-wing pundit Amir Taheri greeted the nuclear deal with a storm of tweets and screeds condemning it. One 140-character charge drew special attention.Taheri tweetAnyone’s first reaction would be some version of “My God.” It sounded horrible.  I wrote to Taheri asking for more information — and so, judging from Twitter, did at least three other people.

But the story quickly began to show cracks. Taheri didn’t reply to me, or anybody. I sat down that night with a Farsi-speaking friend and began searching for the story in the Iranian press: under the youth’s name, under various other key words. It didn’t turn up anywhere. I wrote to the Toronto-based Iranian Queer Organization (IRQO), a diaspora-based group of LGBT Iranian activists with which I’ve worked closely over the years. They searched the media as well and found no sign of it. They also reached out to contacts in Isfahan. On Friday morning, they told me no one there had heard of the story, either.

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Amir Taheri lies a lot. Eight years ago, Jonathan Schwartz called him “one of the strangest ingredients in America’s media soup,” adding, “There may not be anyone else who simply makes things up as regularly as he does, with so few consequences.” An arch-conservative protege of the Pahlavis, an editor of the Tehran daily Kayhan under the Shah, he repeatedly fabricates stories about Iran to please right-wingers in his adoptive West. Most famously, in 2006 he claimed in Canada’s National Post that a new dress-code law in Iran would impose special clothes on religious minorities, including yellow badges for Jews. Many conservatives swallowed the story; even the Canadian Prime Minister repeated it. But it was a complete falsehood, and after a huge furor the National Post retracted it and apologized: “It is now clear the story is not true. … We apologize for the mistake and for the consternation it has caused.” (The Post also noted that Taheri went “unreachable” after his fiction was exposed, rather as he did on Twitter.) Undeterred, in 2008 Taheri concocted a quote from Ayatollah Khomeini, complete with a fake citation of an invented source; American neoconservative luminaries duly repeated it. In 2002, Taheri claimed that “Osama bin Laden is dead …. the fugitive died in December and was buried in the mountains of southeast Afghanistan.” The list of his duplicities goes on and on. In 1989, an academic reviewing one of Taheri’s books

detailed case after case in which Taheri cited nonexistent sources, concocted nonexistent substance in cases where the sources existed and distorted the substance beyond recognition when it was present. … [The reviewer] concluded that Nest of Spies was “the sort of book that gives contemporary history a bad name.”

Larry Cohler-Esses condemns Taheri as a “journalistic felon,” part of a “media machine intent on priming the public for war with Iran.”

There are ample grounds for skepticism about stories Taheri spreads.

But skepticism doesn’t make headlines. Propaganda’s best friend is the ambition of the press. On Thursday, a reporter for the UK-based Gay Star News also tweeted to Taheri.

Morgan to Taheri tweet

Taheri didn’t answer him, either. I know this because the reporter didn’t wait for a source. About 25 minutes later, his story — “GAY TEEN, 14, ‘HANGED FROM TREE’” — topped the website of  Gay Star News, and it said Taheri hadn’t told them anything. In other words, their entire account was based on one single tweet with no evidence behind it. This tweet was special, though. The topic of gay killings in Iran has shown its passionate drawing power over a decade, its ability to keep queers clicking. GSN wanted the clicks for itself.

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    • 786 I’m afraid the violence of Christians is far, far older than Western imperialism. While I do not go so far as to say that it has been *the* most destructive force in history, Christianity’s supposed adherents certainly give any contender for that dubious title a run for their money. After three decades of studying religion, however, I honestly believe political considerations–like empire-building, something not unique to the West–and human failings have more to do with that. Though admittedly Christian scripture is far more violent than anything in the Qur’an or the ahadith, something no Christian will acknowledge despite the fact that the words are there for all to see, plain as day.

      My own vote goes for the materialists, just because the very nature of their ideology admits of no compromise, ever. The victims of materialist ideologies (e.g. Stalinism, Maoism, the Khmer Rouge, Jacobinism) are just “bad meat” in their view, and that meat is in the way of “progress;” so it must be thrown out for new meat to take over. You could try to “reeducate” the meat but that takes more time and resources and isn’t nearly as effective as eliminating the meat. Christianity on the other hand has the concepts of redemption and forgiveness; and while those ideals have surely not been rigorously adhered to, they have at least occupied a nominal place of reverence in Christian regimes.

    • jkings

      Oh, yea sorry I am often guilty of ignoring whatever the forum was about once I get talking.

  • Nur

    I am just going to say this to you.

    I believe you are truly sincere in your beliefs, and you have been decent to me, and recognizing the difference between ‘attacking’ people, and ‘rendering an opinion based on personal perceptions.

    I understand, because many Christians have told me that they want the best outcome for me in the afterlife, and I personally believe that their concern is genuine, and done out of love. I welcome the prayers of any sincere person, but I am one of those that have come to believe that I don’t need ‘religion’ to do good things, and try to be decent.

    I was like you when I was Muslim. I wouldn’t say that homosexuality ‘grossed me out’, or if I would refuse to make a cake, or attend a gay friend’s wedding, but I had a strong belief that gay people were going to hell, and were part of the world’s problems, and now understand that it blocked me from having true humanity toward them. I was ‘nice’ to them because the religion told me to, but how far I could go with them was limited by religion.

    One day, after a young man in our community was beaten to death after being lured for sex by anti-gay knuckleheads, I, and one of my sons, who was raised Muslim but left the faith when he joined the military asked me would I stop loving him if he told me he was gay.

    I think that is the question we all need to start with. Think of someone you love and cherish, and ask yourself if that person told you they were gay, would you stop loving them? Pray for answers if this is your way, read your Bible with that person in your mind. What changed other than you now know that person is gay changed?

    It would be nice for us to get to know each other I think

Newsweek: European far-Right parties ‘seeking anti-Islam coalition with Jewish groups’

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Not new information. We’ve been noting this trend among many of the nationalist, fascist European parties for quite some time now.:

By , Newsweek

Right-wing European political parties are seeking to sow religious discord in Europe by approaching Jewish organisations in a bid to form an anti-Islamic alliance.

Speaking to Newsweek on condition of anonymity, a senior figure in one of Europe’s largest Jewish organisations has revealed that their group has been approached in the past year by MEPs, including members of the Austrian Freedom Party, seeking to create a coalition to combat the rise of Islam in Europe. They emphasized that all approaches had been flatly refused.

Last week, Marine Le Pen and other far-Right politicians met with Vadim Rabinovich, the chairman of the European Jewish Parliament (EJP), prompting criticism from European Jewish leaders.

Now the source says that far-Right’s rapprochement with Jewish groups is far from new as politicians from various parties have attempted to court their group, offering to “be friends with Jews” if Jewish groups “help us in our fight against Muslims”.

In a meeting chaired by Le Pen last Wednesday, Rabinovich met with 10 representatives of the Europe of Nations and Freedom, a bloc of nationalist parties in the European Parliament formed in June.

The bloc includes the Austrian Freedom Party, whose current leader Heinz-Christian Strache was criticised for posting a cartoon perceived as anti-Semitic on his Facebook page. The party’s former leader, Jörg Haider, who died in a car crash in 2008, previously described the Nazi concentration camps as “penal camps” and referred to SS officers as “upstanding men of character”.

The European Jewish Association, which claims to be the biggest federation of Jewish organisations in Europe, said that the EJP risked “magnifying the problem” of anti-Semitism by “giving a platform to those seeking to spread messages of hate”.

Dr Moshe Kantor, president of the European Jewish Congress, said he was shocked that the EJP met with “fig leaf racists and anti-Semites” and added: “It goes without saying that these people [the EJP] are as unrepresentative of the vast majority of European Jews as this collective of Le Pen’s MEPs is of the vast majority of European citizens.”

In a statement on the EJP’s website, Rabinovich said he was “very surprised” by the negative reaction from other Jewish groups.

“The meeting with the [Europe of Nations and Freedom] opens the new dialogue, which, in our firm conviction is what Europe needs today – a dialogue of everybody with everyone, in order to preserve peace and tolerance and combat anti-Semitism in Europe,” said Rabinovich.

He added that a joint statement with Le Pen had condemned anti-Semitism as “the cancer of Europe”.

The EJP was founded in 2011 by Rabinovich and another Ukrainian Jewish billionaire, Igor Kolomoisky. Upon its foundation, it was criticised for including famous persons such as David Beckham and Stella McCartney in its original batch of election candidates. The elections were announced online without many candidates being informed.

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  • The greenmantle

    jews just become number two on the list

Nicolas Sarkozy: “Don’t Turn Empty Churches Into Mosques”

Bourdeaux Church turned into the Utopia Movie Theater.

Bourdeaux Church turned into the Utopia Movie Theater.

Europe has a lot of empty churches, many of which are “for sale” as the Wall Street Journal put it, due to the rising numbers of Europeans leaving Christianity in large numbers.

“…the closing of Europe’s churches reflects the rapid weakening of the (Christian) faith in Europe, a phenomenon that is painful to both worshipers and others who see religion as a unifying factor in a disparate society.”  By example, the Netherlands is projected to close 2/3 of its Roman Catholic churches in the next decade.

Pew Research Center data, presented by the Wall Street Journal, highlights the degree to which the European population reports no religious affiliation:  France (28%), Germany (24.7%), Italy (12.4%), Netherlands (42.1%), and the United Kingdom (21.3%).  By contrast, 16.4% of the United States population is unaffiliated with any religion. (via. Daily Kos)

It turns out across Europe these former Churches are being sold or turned into pubs, night clubs, skate halls and art galleries. I don’t know how prevalent it is for these empty churches in France to be changed but the one above is a church that was converted into a movie theater.

One French Muslim leader named Dalil Boubacker’s suggested turning some of them into mosques since there are a shortage of mosques compared to the demand. This didn’t go over well, especially with the Marine Le Pen’s and Nicolas Sarkozy’s (transparently attempting to appeal to the right’s votes) of the world. They demand that you “don’t touch our churches.”

The Local

Sarkozy added his name to a list of signatories that includes controversial writer and political journalist Éric Zemmour and philosopher Alain Finkielkraut, as well as Jeannette Bougrab, partner of the late Stéphane Charbonnier, Charlie Hebdo editor .

The petition, published in the magazine Valeurs Actuelles comes after Dalil Boubakeur, the rector of the Grand Mosque in Paris said he was in favour of turning empty churches into mosques due to the serious shortage of places of worship for Muslims.

In France there are currently 2,500 mosques, with another 300 under construction, but Boubakeur says the number falls far short of what is needed.

With upwards of 5 million Muslims in France – the largest Muslim population in Europe – Boubakeur and other imams suggest as many as 5,000 mosques are needed.

But his call stirred up a hornet’s nest and Sarkozy has come out firmly against the idea. So too has former French president Valéry Giscard d’Estaing.

“The French Catholic churches [have been] part of the historical heritage of the French population for ten centuries,” he said.

A poll published alongside the petition suggests they are not alone, with 67 per cent of French people apparently opposed to the idea.

“Even if France [has been] deeply de-Christianised since the 1960s, there is a real commitment… to the Christian roots and their symbols,” Jerome Fourquet, Ifop’s director of opinion and strategy, told the magazine.

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My only point would be why not assign those historic churches that one seeks to preserve as national landmarks, clearly it is not possible that all or even most of these unused churches would fit this description. If some of them can be turned into movie theaters and used for other secular purposes there should be nothing wrong in some of them being mosques, synagogues, Buddhist temples, etc.

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    • Cengiz_K

      What about the congregational prayer orientation.. Had that to be adjusted as well, I take it that formerly the cathedral was not oriented towards mekka at first?

    • George Carty

      Judaism didn’t die when the Romans destroyed the Jerusalem Temple, and Islam wouldn’t die if Mecca was destroyed (especially if it was destroyed deliberately by Islam’s enemies).

    • Saleem

      I never liked Freud. But he sure went deep. This one is a classical example of what he taught.

    • Friend of Bosnia

      I wonder if he is the same guy who made all those horrible serbofascist propaganda postings on Balkaninsight. But no, it can’t be the same, because that guy has at least some knowledge about the region even though his conclusions are utterly wrong.

    • Friend of Bosnia

      Hate speech, fascism, genocidal talk must be auppressed. Always. And who utters it must be rendered harmless. Also, continued insult must not be tolerated. What teh world is sorely lacking, and that’s what makes continued violence and genocide possible, is lack of respect. At the very least such guys must be taught manners. They must be taught to respect the others and if they refuse to learn they must be hit over the head with a two-by-four. Or better, be given the same treatment the guy in “Clockwork Orange” was. And then be left to the tender mercies of their former buddies. God, how I would love that Karadzic, Mladic or some other cetnik swine who indulged in killing, raping, robbing Bosniaks would get just that. That woukd hurt them more than being killed or locked up for life.

    • Friend of Bosnia

      Well he wouldn’t let well enough alone. It’s true there is a hadith about our Prophet (saws) touching teh idols in the Ka’aba with his staff and they fell down. I think it can be found in Ibn Oshaq’s biography. It is also true that IS and other such groups interpret this as a mandate to destroy all pre-Islamic (and alos a lot of Islamic) artifacts and historic buildings. However history has shown that most Muslism don’t interpret it as that. Had they, there would be no historica evidence left in most Muslim countries. Also his description of IS abd of the Wahhabi ideal of socienty is accurate as far a sI know. But it is most unfair of him and theother individuals of his ilk to conflate the above with Islam and Muslims in general, to defame Islam as fascism and to associate these negative and destructive currents of Islam with Muslims in general. That is hate-mongering and fear mongering. Such talk can lead to genocide as history continues to show. Who does that is evil and has resigned from the human race.

    • Lithium2006

      “Shutting down speech is never the solution.”

      When it comes to an idiot like that who offers nothing of substance and knee jerk posts, it’s time to tell him offer something intelligent and respectable or get out.

NY Daily News: Man Who Made Death Threats Against CAIR Employee Gets Six Months House Arrest

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Mental health is a serious issue that shouldn’t be belittled or easily dismissed but one has to question why Muslims who commit a crime of violence are almost never treated in a like manner. There are people behind bars for plotting or aiding terrorism, due to nothing more than government entrapment, who are certifiable insane and in need of “medical help,” not lengthy jail sentences.

By John Marzulli, NY Daily News

A Queens kook was sentenced Tuesday to six months of house arrest and mental treatment for sending an email threatening to kill an employee of the Council on American Islamic Relations.

Bernhard Laufer, 57, is still facing attempted murder as a hate crime charges in state court for stabbing the caretaker of the Masjid Al-Saaliheen Mosque in Flushing in 2012 after uttering an anti-Muslim epithet.

Laufer made references to the stabbing attack in the vile rants to CAIR in 2014. He was free on $200,000 bail at the time.

“I’m sorry for what I did,” Laufer said in Brooklyn Federal Court. “I was not thinking logically. I need medical help.”

Judge Raymond Dearie said the one year that Laufer has spent in custody since his arrest on the federal charge was sufficient time served. But the judge expressed concern that there is no guarantee that psychiatric hospital will accept Laufer for in-patient treatment.

“I’m sure he’s not an inherently evil person, he just needs help,” Dearie said.

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    • Friend of Bosnia

      Where you’re right, you’re right.

    • Nur

      The best way for Muslims to protect themselves is to learn a martial art. It is time that Muslims understand that the western authorities are not on their side, and that they MUST have first and foremost the protection of themselves and their loved ones in mind…and be of heightened awareness.

      After you neutralize a threat is the time you can report it. It is much better for the defender if the threat is incapacitated during the police reporting.

      I am sad that this happens, but Muslims have to be honest and frank and deal with the situation as it is.

    • Reynardine

      This and the Doggett case certainly present an argument that some people’s lives are considered more equal than other people’s.

    • mindy1

      Well on the bright side, he can’t hurt anyone else, although I hope more severe penalties are coming…

Robert Doggart: If He Was Muslim He’d Be Serving Life In Prison

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So this guy will likely be let go because a judge thinks he isn’t “a true threat.” Hmmm, I wonder why?

This is another instance that exemplifies the double standard, systematic racism and flawed justice system that is pervasive in the US. (h/t: JD)

By Judd Legum, ThinkProgress

Robert Rankin Doggart, a former candidate for Congress, admitted in federal court to “plotting the annihilation” of a village in New York that is home to many Muslims. Doggart’s plans included “burning down a school, a mosque and a cafeteria,” according to the criminal complaint.

“We’re gonna be carrying an M4 with 500 rounds of ammunition, light armor piercing. A pistol with three extra magazines, and a machete. And if it gets down to the machete, we will cut them to shreds,” Doggart allegedly said according to the transcript of a wiretap cited in the complaint. He also allegedly tried to recruit other individuals to participate in his plot through a Facebook group.

As part of a plea agreement, Doggart pled guilty to “interstate communication of threats” and faces up to five years in prison. He was in jail awaiting final sentencing.

But a federal judge, Curtis Collier, may not accept the guilty plea. He’s ordered the prosecution and defense to produce briefs proving that Doggart was a “true threat.” Meanwhile, a different federal judge, Magistrate Susan K. Lee, released Doggart from jail “into the custody of two family members.”

Lee had previously found that Doggart was a “danger to the community.” The government appealed the decision to release Doggart to Judge Collier, who affirmed Lee’s decision.

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    • Lithium2006

      o/t troll, flagged.

    • syed ali

      ahhhh that is so true

    • ShunTheRightWhale

      Jesus said, he’s God. So if Mohammed was narcisstic, J. takes it to a whole new level. But I believe J. was right, because J. does not only love himself, but everyone. You, good sir, if you are a Christian, should feel that too. But when I read your comment, I feel nothing of God’s love, but simply weak Human hate. Love thy declared “enemy” at least a bit!

    • 1DrM

      He has the complexion for the protection

    • HerrSkolly

      Huh the Huh?

      [No need to scroll down.]

    • Debbie

      Like the infidelophobes who conspire to murder infidels, this Muslimophobe should clearly be locked up forever, IMO. Unfortunately, the reality is that most terrorism convictions in the US result in short-ish, finite sentences rather than “life in prison” :

      http://www.lawandsecurity.org/Portals/0/documents/02_TTRCFinalJan142.pdf

      Average sentence for persons convicted of terrorism: 191.9 months, or 16.0 years

    • Nur

      You posted this:

      “…Muslims inhabit a different moral universe from the rest of us,.”

      If you take your medication, you can leave the hospital, and live in reality with the rest of us.

    • Nur

      From your comment:

      “…A narcissist truly believes he is the best of humanity even if his actions are despicable. He projects his own vices on others while idealizes his own attributes…”

      The arrogance of your post is proof that you have first hand knowledge of what you are trying to project away from yourself.

    • AJ

      I think he is bipolar.

    • Reynardine

      Do you realize that in the vernacular of the time, that was seventy-two golden Muscat grapes? Those are a delicate pleasure, but even a vegan wouldn’t kill for them.

    • Reynardine

      …..

    • Reynardine

      If you want to see a psychopathic narcissist, you could always look in the mirror…woops! You already always are!

    • Yausari

      WHAT the WHAT?

      [Edit]: Meh, scrolled down..

    • Yausari

      “Muslims inhabit a different moral universe from the rest of us,”

      I think it’s more likely that you are self-absorbed in your own moral universe from the rest of us.

    • downwithpants

      “Muslims are incapable of loving” That’s not true “We love death more than you love life” HAMAS See they love something. But for serious Muslims love their children as much as anyone else. Have you not seen the news footage of mums and dad’s openly weeping over their injured or dying children. Average working people caught in a war zone. On the one hand fanatics on the other ISIS….(.see what I did there. ) the world can be a terrible place count your blessing that “terrorism” is really a minor threat in the grand scheme of things.

    • downwithpants

      Narcissistic? Devout followers? I think you’re thinking of Kanye West.

    • moraka

      “I am a patriot!” and “I stand for America all the way!” (Said Frank Silva Roque when he was arrested for the murder of Balbir Singh Sodhi)

    • moraka

      You know you can solve your problem by getting some professional help. With the right medication you can one day no longer suffer from delusions.

Israeli Author Avi Lipkin Says All Churches Are Infiltrated By Undercover Muslims Pretending To Be Christian

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By Emperor

If Muslim Americans thought that they were being watched by the FBI in their mosques, community centers, local restaurants and cafes (as they are), well, that’s nothing compared to what the secret-Mooslamic-Empire is doing with its world takeover plot that will usher in the Last Days/End Times/Return of the Moschiac. That’s according to Israeli author Avi Lipkin, a beloved and frequent commentator on the right-wing Zionist speaker circuit.

Lipkin has been telling churches that “‘all’ churches in America have been infiltrated by Muslim spies who frequently pretend to have found Christ but are really looking to provide intelligence to radical Muslims who will try to kill all Jews and Christians when jihad is ordered upon the U.S.”

This is a departure from Lipkin’s previous call for Christians to bring Muslims “to the Lord or they’ll bring you to the sword.” Apparently, even ex-Muslims aren’t to be trusted as they might be activated at any moment to usher in The Jihad. Lipkin also states that Israel will expand its borders into Syria, (which it already did in 1967), perhaps Lipkin ascribes to the conspiracy that Israel seeks to extend its borders from the Nile to the Euphrates.

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Lipkin thinks Islam is a psychosis, his recent rants really make you wonder why he is projecting so hard?

By Oge Okonkwo, The Pulse

A popular Jewish author, Avi Lipkin, has warned that “all” churches in America have been infiltrated by Muslim spies who frequently pretend to have found Christ but are really looking to provide intelligence to radical Muslims who will try to kill all Jews and Christians when jihad is ordered upon the U.S.

Christian Post reports that Lipkin, who has authored a number of books critical of radical Islam, frequently speaks at Christian churches around the U.S. to emphasize the importance of unity between the Jewish and Christian communities in standing against the advance of radical Islam.

Lipkin, who immigrated from New York to Israel in 1968, spoke at this week’s Future Conference held at Skyline Church in San Diego where he proclaimed that the world is facing the “most interesting” biblical period since the days of Jesus Christ and contended that the coming of the Messiah is just around the corner.

“We are realizing with our own very eyes fulfillment of more Bible prophecy than in any other generation in 2,000 years,” Lipkin asserted. “I believe the Messiah is in our time and I believe Israel will realize its borders.”

As Lipkin believes that Israel will soon expand its borders to occupy part of Syria, he argued that soon after, jihadi orders will be called to rid the world of Jews, Christians and other non-Muslims.

When Muslims are called to jihad, Lipkin believes that they will already have personal information on Jews and Christians because they will have used deception to build personal relationships with those they seek to exterminate.

Explaining that it is a violation of the Quran for Muslims to seek relationships with Jews and Christians, Lipkin said there is an exception for those who plan to act as Islamic spies on churches and synagogues.

Lipkin further explained that his wife, an Egyptian-born Jewess named Rachel, is an avid monitor of various Islamic broadcasts, television feeds and other Islamic news outlets. In one particular Arabian broadcast, Lipkin said Rachel heard the claim made that “all” churches in America have Muslim spies.

“It is very dangerous for a Muslim to even be associated with Christian missionaries or Christian churches unless they are spies. My wife has picked up broadcasts that say all the churches in America have Muslim spies in them, including former Christians who converted to Islam,” Lipkin said.

“When Muslims come to you and say ‘Oh yes, we have accepted Christ and we are born-again,’ you gotta be real careful because lying in Arabic is not only permissible it is commanded. Lying is a virtue in Islam to defeat the enemy.”

Lipkin told the story of one highly-decorated Middle Eastern Muslim doctor who applied for a Canadian visa in order to set up a medical office in Edmonton, Alberta. Before leaving for Canada, Lipkin explained that radical Muslims demanded that she record the personal information, addresses and phone numbers of her Jewish and Christian patients in Edmonton. The Muslims demanded that after she acquired the personal information of her non-Muslim patients, she had to send it to them on a disk so that information can be used to kill her patients once jihad has been ordered in Canada.

“When a war breaks out in the Middle East and orders for jihad come to the Muslims of Canada, the Muslims of Edmonton will kill the Jews of Edmonton and Muslims of Toronto will kill the Jews of Toronto and the Muslims of Vancouver will kill the Jews of Vancouver,” Lipkin continued.

“This was in 1999 but even now, they are cataloging the Jews wherever the Jews live. The Muslims like to have ecumenical relations with the Jews because they want to know who the Jews are and they go to the rabbis and want to be best friends with a rabbi. They want to get close with the rabbi because it will be easier to reach him and kill him.”

Lipkin further suggested that when the orders for jihad are made, Muslims are to kill the Jews on Saturday (the Jewish Sabbath) and then kill the Christians on Sunday.

“Allah wants to kill the Jews on Saturday and kill the Christians on Sunday; kill the Hindus, kill the Buddhists, kill the blacks in Africa and the Muslims kill each other all in the name of Allah,” Lipkin contended. “The bottom line in Islam is that every Jew dies and after that every Christian dies. Jesus Christ is coming back.”

“Ask any Muslim and they will tell you that Jesus is a Muslim,” Lipkin added. “On that day of judgement, every Jew and every Christian who has not converted to Islam will have his throat personally slit by Jesus Christ, the Muslim.”

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    • Laila Muhammad

      in a couple months we will learn that avi has been arrested for child abuse like rabbi freundel eli chen and subway spokesman jared fogle oy vey

    • Tanveer Wan Khanobi

      No, it was a serious question. I had to Google up what an abjad value was.

NJ: Mosque Vandalized With Swastika Carvings

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By Noah Cohen, NJ.com

MIDLAND PARK — A Midland Park mosque where officials discovered a 10-inch swastika carved into an outdoor sign has stepped up security while authorities continue to investigate the vandalism, a report said.

“I am sure it’s one foolish individual,” Hasan Charaf, of the Elzahra Islamic Center, told CBS2. “It’s not what the whole town thinks.”

The mosque has now installed security cameras, the station reported.

The hateful symbol was discovered May 25 along with other sexually explicit images carved into a wooded sign outside the center.

The New Jersey chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations on Tuesday called for state and federal authorities to investigate the incident.

“These types of incidents should be investigated within the context of the rising level of Islamophobic sentiment in our society and treated with the seriousness they deserve,” CAIR-NJ Board Chair Nadia Kahf said in a statement. “Public officials and interfaith leaders should speak out against acts of hatred and intolerance whenever they occur.”

Kahf pointed to threats mailed to Arizona mosques and an anti-Islam rally where he said protesters displayed Nazi symbols.

Borough police have said the case was being treated as a bias crime and the investigation was continuing.

Chief Michael Powderley told CBS2 that investigators were exploring if the mosque carvings were connected to vandalism reported over the same weekend at the local high school.

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    • mindy1

      >:(

    • cmyfe .

      Worms.

    • mindy1

      Pathetic… >:(

Muslim Observer: How Douglas Murray argues

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By Haroon Moghul, Muslim Observer

If I had no shame, I’d advertise myself as an expert on Christianity. In fact, if you think about it, I know more about Christianity than most of Islam’s fiercest critics—including former, or unclearly Muslim public spokespersons for the latest round of intellectual Orientalism—do about Islam. Not only do I have Christian friends, but I’ve read the Old Testament, the New Testament, and the Book of Mormon. I grew up in a predominantly Christian town, and live in a predominantly Christian country. Compared to most of our talking heads, I’m a veritable once-in-a-century phenomenon.

I’ve traveled to numerous churches, spoken across the country to many largely Christian audiences, and have visited other mostly Christian countries, like Spain and England, Australia and Canada. Oh, and Mexico. I speak the language of the world’s largest Christian country—fluently. In fact, I’ve even taught writing courses in college honors programs—in English. I’ve written a book in English. I must know everything about everything. But I’m not a white man, so I can’t get away with it.

I also have self-respect, so I don’t want to. I don’t even claim expertise on traditions outside my own. Even within my own. Just yesterday, I received the latest copy of the Hartford Seminary’s The Muslim World, which was guest edited by a friend, the Reverend Douglas Leonard. (Some of my best friends are Christian!) It’s dedicated to Ibadi Islam, the dominant Muslim tradition of Oman. I was ashamed to say that I knew, and still know, very little, about one of traditional Islam’s three branches, being by birth and choice a Sunni Muslim.

But I am happy to learn more.

And yet, every time it turns to Islam, there’s a Bill Maher or Sam Harris, who really know how much about anything Muslim, pronouncing about Islam. Sometimes they even have Muslim interlocutors, who interpret Islam for them. They appear to have no more than ten or twelve of these, who they pass between themselves when most necessary. At no point does anyone ask: On what basis can you claim to speak on nearly 2 billion people? If you really were so concerned to study Islam, would you not make any effort to study something about Islam—considering how many resources you have available—while you pronounce so inelegantly upon it?

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  • mindy1

    True

AlJazeera: French Mayor Wants To Ban Islam

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Does this even need any commentary? Meftah’s response seems perfect.:

By Massoud Hayoun @mhayoun, AlJazeera English

After the mayor of a small French city called this week for France to ban Islam, at least one French Muslim political activist was rejoicing.

Mayor Robert Chardon of the Southern French city of Venelles tweeted multiple times on Thursday that “the religion of Islam will be banned in France on Oct. 18, 2027.”

Mehdi Meftah, founder of Parti des Indigènes de la République (PIR), a political party representing the interests of people from many of France’s predominantly Muslim former colonies in Africa and elsewhere, called the mayor’s calls to outlaw Islam “absurd.”

“We are interpreting this as a great thing,” Meftah said. The comments, he added, show that “We, [French Muslims] are more and more visible. We have our mobilizations. We have our visions of what France should be.”

Chardon was not immediately available for comment.

A spokesman for Chardon’s party, the center-right UMP of former French President Nicholas Sarkozy, told Al Jazeera that they are considering banning Chardon from the party.

“We condemn this but have yet to issue a formal comment on the issue,” UMP spokesman Pierre-Albert Mazars said. “We have begun procedures to look into removing [Chardon from the Party].”

Mazars said the party had no idea why Chardon had chosen the date of Oct. 18, 2027.

Meftah said Chardon’s tweets reveal that French politics “are in a state of disarray” and undermines the legitimacy of Islamophobia as a political platform.

French politicians “see [Muslims] as a threat,” Meftah said, a sign that French Muslims are gaining power as a political entity.

Unlike in the past, when French Muslims were marginalized, they now have their own movements like the PIR and can push back against what Meftah calls the “white political establishment.”

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    • bill moore

      After the attacks in Paris, this guy should be President of France!

    • Saracenboy

      >Islam wants to get rid of [ban] all other religions.

      [Citation Needed]

    • Awesome

      Islam wants to get rid of [ban] all other religions.

      Islam doesn’t “want” anything. It is a religion for which there is nothing in it that prescribes or encourages the banning of all other religions.

    • ShunTheRightWhale

      Former Yugoslavia is in need of statesmen that can change the opinion of the masses for the better. Germany and France “heriditary enemies” (Erbfeinde) for about 200 years (Germany’s unitiy 1871 was achieved as a militaric victory over France), their clinch about l’Alsace, Lothringen, after WWI the Coal-rich Ruhrgebiet, Saarland, Germany’s humiliation of France in their victory, installed a puppet regime in Vichy, build the French coast into a chain of bunkers and fortresses, nevertheless after the war, the Great Gerneral de Gaulle spoke with Catholic Conservative former Mayor of Cologne and new elected Bundeskanzler Adenauer after all that what had been done with him on an equal level. This was the birth of EWG: Formulation of international economical aims instead of invasions, at some turns even on the other side of the Iron Curtain. In World politics Germany was a divided country that was about first to be nuked in a Nuklear Holocaust. Under this circumstances the the newly founded EWG strove for economic strenghthening of her countries. Time proved that when Stalinism is survived and an astonishing leader takes over power in the USSR the old images of a death foe can be solved. But for some the collapse came too fast. Esspecially for Former Yugoslavia… But even after look a Slovenia small, but firm and since 2004 in the EU, has been a stable member since, especially compared to Greece. Look at Croatia finally managed that too. Serbia’s at the present too nationalistic and has issues with neighbors like Albania and Mazedonia. I think a progress of peace under EU-tutelage would strengthen the bonds between the two entities (EU and BiH), but EU-requirements are strict, the country would have to go through a number of political and economical reforms… But look at Eastern Ukraine or Syria the Scene looks much better than there and much better than 10 years ago. (no wars more since then)

    • ShunTheRightWhale

      Former Yugoslavia is a different issue… Eastern Europe has a long history of ethnic pluralistic countries, since the advent of Nationalism ethnicity has been a driving force behind conflicts in the region. For long periods of history, these peoples didn’t rule themselves, the First World War led to the collapse of foreign rule in the region. Until 1918 many East European cities had sizeable German populations that sometimes formed a merchant elite or entire regions with German rural settlements along the danube (p.e. Riga, Praha, Transsilvania,…). Nothing was left of that. With the receeding Ottoman Empire the uprising people (Montenegro, Serbia, Greece, Romania and Bulgaria) had a common enemy the Turks, but every of these new countries wanted to dominate the other, especially Serbia. This proved to be possible when former Habsburg dominated Croatia and Slovenia formed with Serbia the Yugoslavian Kingdom. But that was relatively shortlived so Croats and Serbs just made some territorial exchanges, before the Browm Soup drowned entire Yugoslavia. The Brown Soup lifted, Tito seized power and ruled with an iron grip: one-party-rule, borders and statues from the central power. These collapsed like with the Soviet Union but the case of Yugoslavia was much more complex: Serbia tried actively to force the insurgent Republics back into the Serbian dominant system, so every one fought their own war against Serbo-Yugoslavia; Slovenes, Croats and finally Bosniaks, and Bosniaks against the Croats too. Everbody against everyone, later on this pattern repeated in the Kosovo crisis. People were murdered on ethnical affilation and one party tried to secure borders over another and in disputed teritories ethnic cleansing was used to claim that territory for oneself. The post war situation created a complex political structure for Bosnia-Herzegovina: the Federation of Bosnia-Herzegovina and the Republika Srpska. The enthnic tensions are still existent, the new sturcture doesn’t work fluently: See the tensions around the trial of Mladic and the 2014 riots… Bosnia-Herzegovia is a poor and corrupted country. As long as ethnical supremacism remains existent (especially Serbian superiority thinking) economical and political tensions and inegalities can fuel new ethnical conflicts.

    • Friend of Bosnia

      If only.

    • Friend of Bosnia

      I said somewhere else that at the going rate it will take over 700 years for Muslims to become a majority (2/3) in Germany, and if you factor in that their birth rate will actually decrease probably much longer, so what are those people making such a fuss about?

    • Hasan karim

      Je suis finished, looks like the Charlie hebdo crew is falling apart. After the hypocrisie we saw that day of many world leaders especially that person from the holy land. I saw this coming. Preaching about freedom of speech while your own government is involved with the most shady things in other parts of the world.

      Je suis crisis.

    • Friend of Bosnia

      Maybe so. But I’m still worried about the onbly place in Europe which has an autochthonous Muslim population, seeing that most non-Muslims in the region are more or less openly hostile to Bosniaks and Kosovo Albanians. The Bosniaks have suffereed their Nakba in 1992-95 and whether they will be reduced to the Gaza Strip of Europe (but without access to the sea) remains to be seen. As the serbo fascist war propaganda conflates them with AQ and IS and calls them all Wahhabi. Of course that’s not true but truth does not serve the enemies of Bosniaks m and is of no consequence. Only the power of arms, that is, armed suoeriority, is relevant here. As fr the Kosovo Albanians, 1999 was their 1948. Whether tehir 1967 will eventualklky come remains to be seen. Buts as long as a sizable proportion of Serbs continue to raise themselves above the others (like: Bosniaks = “Turks”, “balije”, “Islamists”, “Jihadists”; Croats = Ustase”, “Nazis” “fascists” and Albanians, particularly those of Muslim faith = “Orcs”, “drug smugglers”, “Organ robbers”) there can be no peace. But imasgin eif the Allies had red-flagged theitr offensive into Germanys and we still had the Third Reich, that would be the same situation as we have in the Balkans today. The only solution for mer is that if they ever once step over the line again they must this time be militarily crushed as Japan was in 1945, and stripped of all their military conquests as Japan was in 1945. And even so, like in Germany and Japan after 1945 too many genocidals, fascists and Nazis would be allowed to continue their careers, continue in public office and never be brought to justice. I’m really ever getting more and more sympathetic tpo the idfea once espoused by Winston Churchill that every single Wehrmacht (or in this case, Serb armed forces) officer with the rank of major or higher should be summarily shot. Because it is my firm conviction that cruel people should be given the same degree of cruelty they so callously apply to others. The worst thing is, most of them weren’t cruel out of hate, pleasure or sadism but out of efficiency and the conviction of doing the right thing. And those are in my eyes worse than those who actually do hate. Think of the most horrible and hideous thing that can be done to another human being. Even that would be too good for those fiends. Besides that it would be debasing and undignified for those who would actually have to execute them (even though at times I think there are such to whom I would do it most gladly – with a samurai sword for example, but slowly, very slowly – but firstly there is the ever-present fear of getting the wrong person; and secondly, I’m not a murderer nor a sadist; for how long could I stand being the executioner?) The world is full of unworthy people. Not because of their race or their ethnicity or their religion. But because of their conduct. Their conduct and their deeds, which are open for everybodytpo see. Some of them can be ignored; some must be shown the limit they should never overstep. And some deserve death, but not only that. They deserve damnatio memoriae as well (needless to say the same applies to the IS thugs). And as long as I hear nothing but genocidal hate speech from most Serb or pro-Serb forists, I can’t but believe that a majority of Serbs are genocidal maniacs thirsty for Bosniak blood. I cannot but see them as enemies. With mistrust. I will never trust them. Because the tale of the scorpion and the frog applies here as well. Because that is what they have been taught for centuries. How they can be made sane I don’t know. Most probably they can’t. It’s impossible. Oh, a small minority are sane; they are immune to ultranationalism, chauvinism and fascism. A large majority of people are indifferent, just simple souls. If their leaders say its all right to commit genocide or to have genocidal ideas, that’s what they will do; and now suppose their leaders told them to behave friendly towards Bosniaks and Albanians, then they would do just that, never ask why and pretend never to have behaved otherwise. The thing is, one can’t do away with a people as a whole, even though a majority has, in one way or the other, become guilty of genocide because then one would be genocidal oneself. But what can the little man on the street do, especially in such places as the Balkans where might has always made right? Not much, I’m afraid. Only be ever watchful and keep your eyes peeled over those who through history have tried to do us in. Read the enemy’s newspapers, watch their TV, browse their web suites. If you see that they start filling with genocidal hate speech as they did back in 1992, you will know that the Moment of Truth has come. Keep a fistful of gold coins under your pillow; and a gun as well. Try to get yourself and your loved ones out if the line of fire. And if you can’t, do not let yourselves be led like lambs to the slaughter. Remember the heroes of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. And follow their example. If fate has decided that you must die at the hands of the enemy, take down at least six side-boys with you. That’s what I also think I, and everybody else, have to impress on our children and grandchildren as well, pass it on to future generations, across the centuries. Keep the memory of Srebrenica and the 1992-95 genocidal anti-Bosniak crusade alive.

    • sasboy

      Why wait that long to ban French culture ?

    • ShunTheRightWhale

      Can’t these haters come to a similar conclusion? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thilo_Sarrazin This “author”, Sarrazin, prophesied in the 2020ies Islamic law will be enforced in Berlin. The real future for Europe is meanwhile less spectacular, the Muslim percentage will still rise, but since they live in the same economical system their age structure will blend with a lag, meaning their numbers will first become stable and then recede slowly as already does for many Non-Muslim populations in Europe. No spectacular Islamisation, no demise of the Occident. The political and economical situation is luckily (most often) too stable for right wing extremists or Islamists to get to power, the younger generation of migrants (under 30 years) is almost completly bilingual (at least here in Germany) and the majority of them just wants to make a living in the country of their birth. So all that remains to be solved are prejudices, sadly that’s a thing that takes much longer (for prejudices against Jews, p.e., about 150 years, so in the first half of the 22nd century Non-Muslim-Europeans will finally become more tolerant about Islam)…

    • JD

      CAIR Says Tenn. Man Who Planned Religiously-Motivated Attack on NY Muslims Should Face Terror Charges

      (WASHINGTON, D.C., TX, 5/16/15) – The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) today called on the Obama administration to treat a planned religiously-motivated attack on a Muslim community in New York as an act terrorism and to charge the alleged organizer of the attack as a terrorist.

      According to court documents, a Tennessee man who garnered more than 9,000 votes in a failed run for Congress last year admitted in federal court to planning an attack on a Muslim community in New York along with members of a right-wing militia.

      Robert Doggart, 63, was recorded on a wiretapped phone call planning to burn down a mosque and Muslim school, while shooting anyone who tried to stop the attackers.

      “Our small group will soon be faced with the fight of our lives. We will offer those lives as collateral to prove our commitment to our God,” Doggart wrote in a Facebook post. “We shall be Warriors who will inflict horrible numbers of casualties upon the enemies of our Nation and World Peace.” Doggart was arrested April 10 and charged with soliciting others to violate civil rights, attempts to damage religious property because of the religious character of the property and making threats through interstate communication. He pleaded guilty to interstate communication of threats and was released on bond to home confinement. He may not face any jail time

    • mindy1

      Can idiots be banned instead

    • downwithpants

      I definitely wouldn’t put religion on the same level as air. I do get your point that you can’t stop people from being religious

    • The greenmantle

      my money is on the latter . I wonder why that date ?. Judgement day ?

      Sir David

    • Laurent Weppe

      Banning all religions would be just another form of sectarian supremacism.

    • Laurent Weppe

      Apparently, the guy was hospitalized -against his will- just after his outburst: he’s suffering from a mouth cancer that’s killing him and the treatment and heavy painkillers he’s taking are either screwing with his brain… or making him state openly what he was prudent to hide until now.

    • Yausari

      Yes I agree that they shouldn’t be hypocritical about it But it’s a dumb idea, either way. It’s like trying to ban air. People will still practice religion.

    • Heinz Catsup

      Either you ban all religions or none of them. Besides, banning pretty much anything only creates more problems than it solves.

Abby Martin Stunt Triggers Death, Rape Threats From Chris Kyle Followers

What do you all think? (h/t: Capt. JB H):

via. 21stCenturyWire

This storm of controversy started after Martin released a photo of a T-Shirt design she is currently marketing, which reads “F*ck Chris Kyle”.

Interestingly, this story blends into right into a much more inflammatory situation created by anti-Islamic media personality Pamela Geller who was seen to have intentionally baited what looked like a terrorist attack in Garland, Texas last Sunday.

“Very telling that the #ChrisKyle fans who tell me he ‘died for my freedom’ to wear clothes are threatening to rape & kill me for free speech,” said Martin on Twitter

Perhaps. Abby Martin is a staunch anti-war voice and her view are very well known on that issue – so her feelings regarding both Kyle and American Sniper should come as no surprise to anyone. Mob threats of physical violence against Martin and her family are flat wrong, if not illegal, and should be treated seriously by law enforcement. However, in this new nation of extremes, it’s obvious that passions are running hot in all directions – on issues regarding war and the synthetic fear of terrorism, ISIS and of Muslims in America. Unfortunately, not everyone is patient enough, or in some cases even able to rise above the “shock culture”. Whether it’s the bombastic Geller, the cutting Martin, or the war mongering cult of Kyle, this is the new ugly America where everyone is compelled to shove it in each others’ faces, and where ideological opponents are threatened with heinous physical crimes.

1367558793cf78d1_l Beautiful America. Classy America. The envy of the world, right?

Wiser pundits should be wondering where this new “free speech” odyssey is actually heading. Regardless, we’ll have to get used to a confrontational culture, of endless calculated and intentionally instigatorial mud-slinging, hate-based and polarized discourse trumps civil debate and discussion. This is just the way things are now. And we expect this unsettling trend to get worse, before it gets better.

So who’s right and who’s wrong? At some point in the near future, that won’t even matter (if it doesn’t already). Problem, reaction, solution. Undoubtedly, this is where the foul-mouthed ‘Geller Culture’ is all heading. As this new instigator environment becomes progressively worse (as it certainly will), then expect our trusted savior and nanny supreme – the Government – to step in and restrict our REAL free speech. Originally, Americans’ “free speech” was earmarked by the US Constitution’s founders – first and foremost – to protect genuine dissenters from a tyrannical government or state.

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    • Capt. J.B. Hennessy

      Why is it ok?

    • Sam Seed

      So why come here and listen to idiots?

    • AJ

      So you are saying that when US publishes spy shots of ISIS moving along in huge trains of stolen US Humvees, they can take photographs but not drop one of those far-reaching missiles? Yeah sure. Listen, I need to sell you some sand from Saudi Arabia. You can create an alternate silicon industry where you live. Interested?

    • AJ

      There is nothing in the Quran that asks to rape or traffic women. I can insult people on this blog telling people that jkings told me to do that – doesn’t mean that they are your words. EDUCATE YOURSELF. READ THE QURAN INSTEAD OF ISIS’s MANIFESTO.

    • jkings

      Ok I see the issue here. This is not your fault. You don’t necessarily understand this one detail.

      1) ISIS operates within miles of the US military. ==Under cover of civilians, hiding in Iraq homes, hiding in civilian cars.

      2) ISIS uses ammunition, Humvees and tanks of the US military conveniently ‘stolen” from them. == Many Loonwatch observers have already answered this question for you. The Iraqi army were shocked at the threat of being beheaded, their commanders were many times paid off or were infiltrated by ISIS, and on top of that, the largely Shia army didn’t care to defend a Sunni city which is Mosul. When given the order to run away from the madmax terrorist, they chose to listen.

      3) ISIS does not target US marines or the US installations. == ISIS did take some pop shots at al-Asad base, but couldnt approach the base very well under cover of civilians, so since its chances of doing anything but getting pwned by Apaches helicopters, getting direct hits by airstrikes, they stopped trying. As I said you may very well see conflict between ISIS and US troops, it will just be done while ISIS is hiding behind babies and old ladies, and surrounded by IED. You can say a lot about the US but they are pretty good at not getting stomped on. ISIS doesnt like 1 sided fights if they are the losing side. (See battle of Kobani).

      4) ISIS kills primarily Muslims. == To your eyes they do kill primarily Musilims, this should greatly concern you and everyone else. The reason being is they define for themselves who a real Muslim is and who is not. They have refined this in great detail. Their community of fellow jihadist are aware of their standards. If someone doesn’t fit there standard of what a Muslim must be, its simple, it makes them an infidel. That is their take on it, surprised if you heard it first here because you can get that info pretty easy. So what your issue with that is, is pretty much an argument between you and ISIS. Take it up with them by God and I support you.

      We can still discuss this stuff and be cool. I promise. Have a good day.

    • jkings

      Hard questions can have hard answers. It is not easy to confront radical Islam. I would that less teenager’s with a higher IQ than me don’t join ISIS and blow up their own IQ. I would have it so.

    • AJ

      You posses the IQ of a potato. I will refrain from talking to you in future.

    • AJ

      Get this. There is NO Islam that tells anyone to kill ANY innocent. ISIS is killing innocents yet they kill NO American soldiers. They never target any Israelis. Lets review: 1) ISIS operates within miles of the US military. 2) ISIS uses ammunition, Humvees and tanks of the US military conveniently ‘stolen” from them. 3) ISIS does not target US marines or the US installations. 4) ISIS kills primarily Muslims. Let’s guess who these people can be.

    • AJ

      How about having sexual escapades in this life? Why wait for the next one?

    • jkings

      There is a large difference. In the UK and Ireland they don’t pack tons of explosives in trucks and drive themselves into large groups of people, with a smile on their face, happy to become bits in order to become what they think is a blessed martyr. You can be on the wrong side or right side of that issue. If you don’t understand that its a problem of ideology, I cannot help you. Some of these people who commit suicide like this, chasing after a eternal life of sex, are leaving their children and families behind on earth. That does not spell out a desperation to me of self defense and protecting family or lands. Remember their targets of suicide attacks change by the day. If its Sunni Muslims, and they don’t support ISIS, they end up bits just as the Kurds would or Christians, purple people from planet mars if they made it to Iraq, it doesn’t matter, its not about what they think or do, even if they are a 70 year old Sheik they fall just as James Foley did. If they don’t submit to ISIS in all ways that are forced upon them. If there were more Americans in Iraq you would see them getting killed more too. (That is because Obama thought saying sorry and leaving would end the war and didn’t leave troops there.) We may just see that the way ISIS is doing everything in their power to bring US troops to the fight. ISIS wants nothing more than to engage Americans on the ground. Its not too bad to fight Americans if you hate them with every passion and think death is exciting. And you have the support of millions who justify your rage against them. You keep making this point about ISIS killing Muslims. Can I explain again that in ISIS’s view, these people are not true Muslims if they don’t support the Caliphate, and or are not practicing Islam as they see fit? In their view they are only apostates. If you don’t believe me check in on them and you can see their behavior. There is a group that risk their lives daily called ” Raqqa is being slaughtered silently” in Raqqa that does a great job of explaining the happenings of what is going on in their capital. I am not saying that listening to ISIS is hearing truth, but you should actually look into what they are saying before assuming the US is behind all their words. It seems that you are not willing to approach the idea that ISIS has its own brain. A brain that operates on radical Islam.

    • AJ

      How about the Protestant Catholic divide in Ireland and UK? The only difference is that we don’t have Muslim armies invading those lands and fueling those conflicts. Everywhere there is US army there is a terrorist organization all operating on American weapons and doing their work. ISIS doesn’t kill Americans in Iraq, it kills Muslims.

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