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DemocracyNow: FBI Informant Exposes Sting Operation Targeting Innocent Americans in New “(T)ERROR” Documentary

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This type of harassment of American Muslims continues unabated. If the FBI can’t entrap you they will find other ways to ruin your life.

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We spend the hour with an explosive new film that shines a bright light on the FBI’s shadowy use of informants in its counterterrorism sting operations. These undercover operatives are meant to root out would-be terrorists before they attack. Since 9/11, they have been used to prosecute at least 158 people. But critics argue they often target the wrong people, “including those with intellectual and mental disabilities, and the indigent.” “(T)ERROR” goes inside the world of a particular informant who has played a key role in several major terrorism cases. It does so while he is in the middle of carrying out his latest sting operation. It came together when two independent filmmakers gained unprecedented access to follow Saeed Torres, whose undercover name is “Shariff,” a 63-year-old former black revolutionary turned FBI informant, as he monitors a white Muslim convert named Khalifah al-Akili. Torres knew one of the directors, Lyric Cabral, and after he came out to her as an informant, he agreed to share his story, without informing his superiors. As the film unfolds, al-Akili begins to post on his Facebook page that he suspects the FBI is targeting him. The filmmakers used this an opportunity to approach him, and soon find themselves interviewing him at the same time they are also documenting “Shariff” monitoring him. During this time each man remains unaware that the filmmakers are talking to the other one. We get the rest of the story when we are joined by the filmmakers who co-directed “(T)ERROR,” Lyric R. Cabral and David Felix Sutcliffe, and play part of an interview with al-Akili from federal prison. Al-Akili was arrested just days after he emailed civil rights groups to say he believed he was the target of an FBI “entrapment” sting. He is now serving eight years in federal prison for illegally possessing a gun after having previous felony convictions for selling drugs. We are also joined by Steve Downs, executive director of the National Coalition to Protect Civil Freedoms. He works with Project SALAM, which published a report last year called “Inventing Terrorists: The Lawfare of Preemptive Prosecution.” He is also representing imprisoned Pakistani scientist Dr. Aafia Siddiqui. We are also joined by Marlene, the mother of Tarik Shah, who was arrested in 2005 after a joint FBI/NYPD sting operation that also involved Saeed “Shariff” Torres. She details in the film how Shah thought Shariff was his close friend, but he was actually an FBI informant.

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    • Awesome

      We do not vandalize. We do not engage in hate speech. We have respect for the law. We do not harm our fellow citizens. We are slow to anger and when we finally get angry, we express that anger in a civilized way.

      The same can be said for us as well.

      UNDER THAT BANNER, I WILL STATE THE FOLLOWING:

      To which I am going to reply with the following:

      Follower of Islam, I do not tolerate you. Your feigned or willful ignorance, about Islam, is no longer an excuse. I hold you personally accountable.

      Fear-mongering, hate-mongering careerist, I do not respect or tolerate the lies, half-truths and sensationalism about Islam that you promote, whether you promote it out of ignorance or deceit. Such falsehoods that you perpetuate against Islam shall always be undermined, debunked and discredited. In addition, for all the illegal actions that are taken in response to your anti-Islam propaganda, you are also personally accountable for.

      I am offended by you. I cannot and will not tolerate a person, who follows an ideology, which teaches the inferiority of women, the killing and hatred of Jews, the execution of homosexuals, the silencing of free speech, forced amputations, the stoning of rape victims, genital mutilation, and the violent overthrow of all non-Islamic governments and civilizations.

      In this case, the problem with what offends you is not with the alleged offense, but with you. Since Islam does not actually teach “inferiority of women”, the “killing and hatred of Jews”, the “execution of homosexuals”, the “silencing of free speech”, “forced amputations” (except as a penal code for certain theft), the “stoning of rape victims”, “genital mutilation”, or the “violent overthrow of all non-Islamic governments and civilizations”, then your intolerance of an ideology that would teach such things is irrelevant. The fact that you would associate such things with a religion that does not actually advocate them is offensive enough. The fact that you would go further and associate your falsehoods with Muslims who do not actually believe in them puts you on the same level as the extremists you pretend to oppose.

      Ultimately, what a person believes about their religion is more relevant than the fact that they believe in it. Even more relevant is how they actually practice it. Sensible, rational people understand this, and if you had any sense, you would too.

      Islam is Nazism with a god. And I cannot and will not “coexist” with Nazis. I will not patronize your places of business. I will not hire you. I will not buy your products. I will not support politicians who support you. I will not be your friend. And if I am your neighbor, I will always be suspicious of you and cautious. I want you to feel so uncomfortable in my free country, in my civilized country, that you renounce your allegiance to this savage and fascist ideology or leave.

      In reality, Islam is more like the sequel to Judaism and Christianity. Nazism is more akin to what those who are opposed to Islam represent: militarism and fascism. In that regard, all efforts to oppress, persecute and marginalize Muslims are only going to be met with perseverance and counter-measures. You can choose not to patronize Muslim businesses, but others are still going to regardless. You can choose not to hire Muslims, but it is unlikely many Muslims would want to work to promote fear and hatred of themselves and their religion anyway. You can choose not to buy Muslim products, but again others still do so regardless. You can choose not to support politicians who support Muslims, but the game is rigged anyway so it doesn’t matter. You can choose not be friends with Muslims, but there is no shortage of friendship that would require your friendship anyway. You can choose to be paranoid about Muslim neighbors, but without breaking the law, your paranoia would be nothing but a petty nuisance and an object of ridicule. Despite all your efforts, there is unlikely going to be any renouncement of Islam or any mass emigration of Muslims from this “free country”. Islam has been in this “free country” longer than you have been alive, and it is not going to “leave” to appease your vanities.

      ISLAM IS THE ENEMY of free speech, of human rights and of Liberty. If you follow Islam, you are my enemy. I encourage you now to leave Islam and take your place among the civilized people of this world. But if you insist on remaining loyal to the brutal savagery of Islam, your enemies will grow faster than can be contained, by an Islamic lobbyist group or the media or any government agency. This is a zero sum game and the Civilized World will win.

      Islam is the enemy of falsehood, of injustice, of tyranny and of oppression. Your declaration of enmity towards Islam and Muslims as well as the diatribe that is attached to it serves only to expose your own ignorance, hypocrisy and bigotry on this issue. In this regard, however, you are nothing new. The enemies of Islam and Muslims have always come with their diatribe of lies, half-truths and sensationalism against Islam. Then, just as now, their claims have also always been debunked, refuted and discredited. In the end, regardless of how many enemies of Islam there are or what they do, only the truth will win, as it always does.

      ISLAM HAS BEEN AT WAR FOR 1,400 YEARS with freedom and all that is good. But my head is no longer hidden in the sand. I am at war with you. All people who value human rights, freedom and Liberty should be at war with you. And they will be soon enough, because the enemy of Islam is information and we are spreading information faster than you can keep up with. There is no way to put this genie back in the bottle now. The information age will be the death of Islam.

      The information age is only going to be the death of the propaganda against Islam, because that propaganda is based on lies, half-truths and sensationalism, which always fails to stand up to scrutiny. Islam is a religion that is bastion of truth, freedom, human rights and all that is good, so it is impossible for it to be at war with those concepts. Hence, rather than being the “death of Islam”, the information age in fact facilitates its growth.

      Your 1,400 year reign of terror is coming to an end. And you, follower of Islam, are on the wrong side of history.

      To the contrary, Islam is going to continue to grow, as it is destined to do, and bringing Islam to an end is no more feasible than bringing Christianity to an end. It is something that can only be accomplished through some miraculous divine intervention. Short of that, the religion is going to endure indefinitely, and those who follow it are never on the “wrong side of history”. It is not the followers of a religion, but only those who are hostile and aggressive who are on the “wrong side of history”.

      It is time for all civilized people to find the moral clarity and the courage to GET ANGRY and to BECOME INTOLERANT. You have the ability to do this in a civilized way. We must not become like the savages whom we oppose – otherwise they win. Islam is Nazism with a god. Islam must be stopped. When you support the followers of Islam, you support an ideology that promotes genocide against the unbeliever as clearly outlined in the Quran.

      Islam is a religion that is over 1400 years old and is only going to continue to grow as it is destined to do. Islam does not promote genocide against unbelievers, and there is nothing in the Qur’an that “clearly outlines” this. There is also no reason for civilized people to participate in a witch hunt against a religion that over 20% of them believe in. It isn’t “moral clarity”, but a “moral panic”, which does not involve “courage” but “cowardice”. Moral panics are not things that concern civilized people as they represent the antithesis of what it means to be civilized.

      THE TIME HAS COME TO BOYCOTT THE FOLLOWERS OF ISLAM. FOLLOWER OF ISLAM, I PERSONALLY HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE FOR SUPPORTING THIS FASCIST IDEOLOGY.

      It is the right of the individual to embrace whatever religion he wants to embrace in his heart, mind, beliefs, principles, rituals, customs and lifestyle. Islam is the antithesis to fascism, and if an individual chooses Islam as their religion, that is also their right. Regardless of what you personally hold them accountable for, they are, in reality, only accountable for what they have control over. Also, unlike boycotting Israel, there are no identifying markers to make it convenient to boycott Muslims.

      Tolerance is overrated. If you follow the Quran, you are the enemy of freedom and you are my enemy.

      Tolerance is a part of civilized society. If you are intolerant then you are an enemy of freedom.

    • Yea, he was on Daily Kos until they booted him out for being a hatemonger. The American Thinker [sic] defended him, and I’m sure he’s got chums somewhere; but the right has dropped him like a hot potato after his anti-Jewish views were aired. They must not have realized he is a full-service Anti-Semite.

    • golden izanagi

      I got scholar of the first sin, and I can safely say that majula is still a peaceful little settlement to hang out at, the shrine of amana is still a pain in the ass to get through with all of those homing shots constantly coming at you, and tseldora remains as creepy as ever with those spiders hanging around it. I can only wonder why that duke was so fascinated by spiders and not things like the giants or dragons like aldia vendricks mad scientist brother was.

    • Tanveer “Utter Khanage” Khan

      In Undead Crypt right now. Plan to get Scholar of the First Sin in the distant future. XD

    • cmyfe .

      Have you tried Dark Souls 2 yet? Get the scholar of the first sin edition if you haven’t.

    • Solid Snake

      Get a PS4, that way we can all game online. We’ll eveN make a Loonwatch clan it will be [LOON]. We’ll collect the PSN usernames of LWrs and after that…the world!

    • Just_Stopping_By

      My upvote was before you edited this and does not reflect its current state.

      But, if we’re taking do-overs, then I submit the following:

      “This malicious assault on Hector’s good practice and character shall not be forgotten.”

      Mmm … ‘licious as salt on Hector…

    • Tanveer “Utter Khanage” Khan

      I’ll b fine, all I need 2 do is pick a line from OMAM and AIC nd pretend theres sum deep filosofical meaning behind teh use of teh wurd “the”.

    • Just_Stopping_By

      “… if I do good in my exams …”

      Let’s hope that they’re not English exams, or you may not do so well.

    • Tanveer “Utter Khanage” Khan

      I’ve seen some gameplay and it looks great. Inshallah, if I do good in my exams I can get an Xbox One as a reward.

    • Sam Seed

      If I may intrude, if you like Dark Souls you will love Bloodborne on the PS4. I’m currently playing that.

    • The greenmantle

      Hav’n’t we had stuff about this person before . Didn’t he try to get on the islamaphobia gravy train ? but missed the bus as he was too stupid ?

      Sir David

    • Yausari

      LOL. I’d like to see them boycott Arab oil.

    • Tanveer “Utter Khanage” Khan

      That isn’t my question, bruh.

    • downwithpants

      All religions have end days

    • B.D.S

      Yes, to meet some ignorant worshipers as apparently Islam don’t attract educated school-goers. This is what refusing to wear pants does, there’s this danger certain undesirable areas may get exposed sometimes :).

    • Rajano

      From the article: “But critics argue they often target the wrong people, “including those with intellectual and mental disabilities, and the indigent.” ”

      Whether they are the wrong people or not depends upon their actual goal. If their actual goal were to protect people from future terrorist attacks, then, yes – they were the wrong people. I suspect, however, that is not their actual goal. Their actual goal is to provide justification for their rather bloated budgets. They pick precisely the people who are least likely to be believed if given an opportunity to tell their side of the story. This reminds me of a quote from one of my favorite novels: The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams:

      ‘A teaser? Teasers are usually rich kids with nothing to do. They cruise around looking for planets which haven’t made interstellar contact yet and buzz them.’

      ‘Buzz them?’ Arthur began to feel that Ford was enjoying making life difficult for him.

      ‘Yeah,’ said Ford, ‘they buzz them. They find some isolated spot with very few people around, then land right by some poor unsuspecting soul whom no one’s ever going to believe and them strut up and down in front of him wearing silly antennae on their head and making beep beep noises. Rather childish really.’

    • HerrSkolly

      I believe that may have been mentioned in the book “God’s Excellent Adventure”.

    • Tanveer “Utter Khanage” Khan

      Has God ever said he will show up on Earth and go “Yo, it’s me” before the world ends?

    • Tanveer “Utter Khanage” Khan

      Chode. Hah.

    • Tanveer “Utter Khanage” Khan

      I enjoy invading n00bs on Dark Souls. It backfires when you don’t invade n00bs though…

    • Solid Snake

      This is considered cruel and unusual. Even he wouldn’t resort to such an evil tactic!

Yasmine Taeb: Notorious Islamophobe To Address Members Of Congress

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By Yasmine Taeb, ThinkProgress

In a post for ThinkProgress last month, I discussed how a tightly-knit group of anti-Islam activists and organizations in the United States are in fact collaborating with and at times funding similar discriminatory and bigoted elements in Europe.

In a recent apt example, notorious anti-Islam and far-right Dutch lawmaker Geert Wilders has announced he will be addressing members of Congress at two events later this month. Wilders, who has called for a ban on the Qur’an, the construction of new mosques, and Muslim headscarves, boasted on his blog of his invitation to the United States by members of Congress. His invitees are none other than far-right congressmen Steve King (R-IA), known for his vociferous anti-immigrant stances, and Louie Gohmert (R-TX), infamous for his House floor tirades about “terror babies” and claims that “radical Islamists” are pretending to be Hispanics to come to the United States. The trans-Atlantic alliance is in fact a match made in heaven, as Wilders’ conspiratorial and xenophobic views align well with the extreme right fringe of the Republican Party.

After inquiries to Gohmert’s office for additional details about the April 29 reception, his staff merely told me that Gohmert had invited the Dutch politician to speak on Capitol Hill but that Gohmert is not hosting the reception. Wilders is also expected to speak at a breakfast the same day for lawmakers belonging to the Conservative Opportunity Society, a group that was founded by former Speaker of the House of Representatives Newt Gingrich. “I feel deeply honored by the invitations. In my speeches I will warn my American colleagues of the dangers of Islamization,” wrote Wilders on his personal blog.

This is of course not Wilders’ first speaking engagement in the United States. Wilders spoke at a 9/11 commemoration rally in New York City in 2010 where he voiced his opposition to Islam. During a visit to Denver, Colorado in 2012, Wilders warned an audience at the Western Conservative Summit of the threat of “Islamization,” called Islam a “dangerous, totalitarian ideology” and argued for banning the construction of new mosques in the United States.

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    • B.D.S

      Horribly done. Either he’s cheap and buy his products from drug stores, or he needs to change his hair salon:).

    • Yausari

      Google translated the title

      “Geert Wilders , the brother of Chucky”

    • The greenmantle

      Hide the grey brain cells

    • downwithpants

      Lmao

    • AJ

      More likely his Indonesian black roots.

    • JS

      Someone is trying to hide the grey….

    • JS

      imho the title should be reworded, it sounds like Yasmine Taeb is the notorious Islamophobe to speak at congress

    • cmyfe .

      Why did they invite chucky’s Dutch cousin to address them?

    • mindy1

      This is what my taxes go for?! I want a refund >:(

    • AJ

      This guy is as fake as his hair color.

Rep. Louie Gohmert, Rep. Steve King Invite Dutch Fascist Geert Wilders

"Under his wing": Geert Wilders & Robert Spencer

“Under his wing”: Geert Wilders & Robert Spencer

Geert Wilders is on his way to the US again, this time at the invitation of two US congressmen. He will also be awarding a prize at Pamela Geller and Deacon Robert Spencer’s “Draw Muhammad” contest in Texas. (h/t: WaltervanderCruijsen)

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On Wednesday April 29th, he will speak at a reception offered to him by Congressman Louie Gohmert (R, TX).

That same day, he speaks at the invitation of Congressman Steve King (R, IA) at the breakfast meeting of members of the US Congress belonging to the renowned Conservative Opportunity Society, a group founded in 1984 by Newt Gingrich, former Speaker of the House of Representatives.

Wilders: “I feel deeply honored by the invitations. In my speeches I will warn my American colleagues of the dangers of Islamization.”

After his visit to Washington, Geert Wilders travels to Garland, Texas, where on May 3rd he will give a speech and award a prize of $10,000 for the best Muhammad cartoon.

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    • Jeff Elberfeld

      I wouldn’t call Geert Wilders “fascist.” Fascists had a vision on economic policies. Unlike them, evil Geert has nothing to offer on that field, apart from attacking everyone who is Polish, Greek, or from another coutry he doesn’t like. Also, fascists believe in Jewish conspiracies, whole Wilders believes in Muslem conspiracies.

      So is Wilders fascist? No. Is Wilders a populistic, mad, paranoid attention-whore? Yes.

    • Capt. JB Hennessy

      Muslims should claim they won the ten gees. Photoshop their image standing next to Geert with the check and then claim they donated to money to Hamas.

      On the other hand it may back fire, it might get more coverage then Geert arriving in some Southern state, I can’t remember it’s name. Probably a recent addition to the United States.

    • downwithpants

      Maybe instead of being a God fearing gun loving American he should try being a god loving gun fearing American.

  • The greenmantle

    Garland Texas yup another place never to go to

AlterNet: Exposing Anti-Islam Author Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s Latest Deception

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An excellent article by Max Blumenthal on Ayaan Hirsi Ali that has gotten a lot of shares on social media. It notes what we and many others have for quite some time, her fraudulent autobiography and deceptive Islamophobic tactics.

By Max Blumenthal, AlterNet

While promoting her new book, Heretic, on a March 23 episode of “The Daily Show,” Somali-born author and anti-Islam activist Ayaan Hirsi Ali made a staggering claim: “If you look at 70 percent of the violence in the world today, Muslims are responsible,” she told host Jon Stewart.

Stewart did not demand any evidence and Hirsi Ali provided no citation. However, she made a strikingly similar statement in a March 20 essay previewing her new book for the Wall Street Journal: “According to the International Institute for Strategic Studies,” Hirsi Ali wrote in WSJ’s Saturday Essay, “at least 70% of all the fatalities in armed conflicts around the world last year were in wars involving Muslims.”

I contacted the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS), a leading British foreign policy think tank, to inquire about the source of Hirsi Ali’s statistic. According to IISS Media Relations and Communications Officer Kat Slowe, IISS did not explicitly state such a figure in its research.

“I have spoken to a number of our experts and they cannot identify where this statistic may have come from,” Slowe told me.

“Their best guess is that the journalist in question [Hirsi Ali] may have access/a subscription to the [IISS] Armed Conflict Database and may have calculated this statistic independently. There are some concerns that it could be misleading as, without Syria (near 200,000 total deaths, and almost half of last year’s global conflict deaths) the figure would look massively different (and of course, this conflict did not have its root in religion),” Slowe added.

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    • downwithpants

      I bet you also use the term sheep le. Alex Jones is missing a fluff boy…so close you could be “his shadow”……

    • Tarig Musa

      If accurately portraying the facts about a persons history is a smear, you must have a different version of “smear”.

    • Tarig Musa

      well clearly you didn’t read the article as it provides screen shot evidence that it is in fact the guys you are a fan boy of that lied, not Max. next time you want to comment, try not to pose a question that has already been debunked.

    • JS

      What bold claims? What are you trying to argue? You can’t pick one part of my comment and then pretend to act intelligent because you somehow called me out on it. I specifically said “Islam can’t restrict or kill anyone. Only people can. Hirsi is trying to smear 1.8 billion Muslims as barbaric”

IndiaTimes: “Shocking! Mob Ties A Noose Around The Neck Of This Cow Trader And Makes Him Utter ‘Jai Shri Ram’”

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In France, it’s the politics of pork, in Sri Lanka and India it’s over meat in general.

(h/t: Saqib)

By Mugda Kapoor, India Times

Modi might have said that his Government would not allow any religious group belonging to a majority or a minority to incite hatred, but things in India are far from over. The ban on beef by the Maharashtra government has already kicked off a huge country-wide rage, this was made even worse when Haryana (another BJP ruled state) decided to follow suit. The latest twist into the ban of beef is the following video which has been going viral.

The video allegedly features a muslim cow trader who was trading cows for his hindu employer. It shows him tied to an electric pole and surrounded by a fundamentalist mob which is thrashing him and inciting him to utter Jai Shri Ram.

Click here to watch video.

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    • Awesome

      However, I condemn anything that is related to denigration of Islam and Muslims in general. But I request the site owners to please put up the whole story regarding the person who’s shown as the victim was some valid worker of some licensed company abattoir or just a smuggler, criminal doing unlawful activity. It will help in eradicating any misconception to foreigners.

      What the lynch-mob is doing to that man is unlawful, even if you want to accuse him of being a meat smuggler (of which no evidence has been provided). People accused of crimes are arrested, tried and either convicted or acquitted. That is how an organized society under the rule of law is supposed to function, not through “mob rule” where lynch mobs randomly target those that they don’t like. It undermines the rule of law and encourages anarchy.

    • Jekyll

      Nope

    • Tanveer ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Khan

      Bollywood is amazing. Don’t diss.

    • AJ

      This article or perhaps another by this author says that beef has been banned in Maharashtra and in another state in India. I just confirmed it. That’s a huuuuge thing considering India calls itself secular. What will the Indian Muslims do? India is moving backwards and not forward. Iqbal knew this a long time ago.

    • cmyfe .

      Good spot! But these types of details are needed when you are debating a sane and reasonable person. This guy is a frustrated extremist Indian who doesn’t want to admit that his community is doing wrong against minorities. I can imagine his ilk justifying “bali” or human sacrifice to Kali by saying something like “Oh! you see this is population control and will of Kali, this is for the best.” In his mind Indians can do nothing wrong, just like in Bollywood!

    • Tanveer ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Khan

      And how come nobody’s talking about this?

      “The video allegedly features a muslim cow trader who was trading cows for his hindu employer.”

      Why are all the mentally defunct goons silent on this?

    • cmyfe .

      So “Petty Criminals” get forced to convert to Hinduism and chant Hindu slogans?

      Are you not siding with Hindus because you’re a Hindu? Just reverse the religions of the people in this video and you would be crying “terrorism” etc. Your lies are nothing more than… well lies!

Raw Story: Georgia ‘patriot’ reportedly planted pipe bombs in park to sow fear of Muslims

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By David Ferguson, Raw Story

A 67-year-old Marietta, Georgia man is accused of planting a backpack containing two pipe bombs in an Atlanta-area public park in order to frighten the public and sow fear of Islamic terrorism.

According to Atlanta’s Channel 2 News, conservative “patriot” Michael Sibley confessed to police that he was trying to educate people that terror strikes can happen anywhere and without warning when he planted the bombs last November.

The backpack contained two partially-constructed pipe bombs, a Koran and a list of “soft targets” for terrorist attacks — i.e., non-military, unguarded structures like hospitals and schools. Among the list of potential targets was an Atlanta Jewish center.

Channel 2 quoted Sibley’s arrest report, which reported that he “(s)tated that he is a ‘patriot’ and he felt no one was paying attention to what was going on the world. Sibley felt if he placed the package in a Roswell park then people would finally get that this type of activity could happen anywhere.”

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    • AJ

      Basically, any crime that a Muslim does must be mandated by his religion (if he professes to do so), even though the religion may have no injunctions for it AND even though that Muslim may not practice any basic tenets of Islam.

    • HSkol

      Dude has got to be incredibly fearful to feel that he needed to instill fear in others. These types have always existed. They seem to have been tamped down to a degree a couple decades back. Now, they seem to be popping up with far too great a frequency for me to say that Humanity has progressed – in fact, I feel that we’ve done just the opposite. Goodness, may you save us all.

    • HSkol

      Fair is fair and consistent is consistent. Unfortunately, we’ve been short of fairness and consistency for quite some time now. Perhaps, and more likely, we’ve never had as much. Let’s work for it. I’m on board.

    • Capt. JB Hennessy

      If you discover the cure for Cancer and your a Muslim then it won’t be Islamic Cure for Cancer. Then it would hover in the realm of, “we taught you how to do it”.

    • Capt. JB Hennessy

      They track hack your IP address. Figure what you are doing where you are going what equipment you have attached to it. Then they censor you while applauding their embrace of free thought and speech.

      You have confuse them by making anti-Christian comments on Monday, their minds are still doped over from Saturday night at the Round Up Square Bar and Grill mechanical bull ride and Q/A. On Tuesday make a few anti-Muslim comments. They’ll think you on their side. Just change your opinion every other day about everyone.

      And if you claim your the victim they will definitely leave you alone thinking your their supervisor.

    • cmyfe .

      I just can’t seem to get over “Islamic Terrorism”. What does that mean? What makes an act “Islamic”? If I rape someone and say I did it for Islam or that Islam recommends this, would that make it “Islamic rape”? Even though vast majority of normal Muslims and almost all scholars might be negating this claim? If this is valid then there should also be terms like “Humanitarian Terrorism”, “Secular Terrorism” and “Liberal Terrorism” etc.

    • cmyfe .

      That’s disturbing. How desperate can one be over a religion / race or whatever??? http://www.tineye.com can be utilised to search where a certain profile pic etc is being used.

    • Julieann Wozniak

      Bumpkin, rube, assclown, the sort of individual who believes it is his divine right to engage in public urination and sees nothing wrong in bringing his assault rifle into a family restaurant. The thugs who gathered at the Bundy Ranch and closed down a neighboring highway are apt examples. Have a few of these in my small town but, fortunately, they aren’t reproducing and will leave when Chevron Appalachia does.

    • Tanveer ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Khan

      In what sense are you using the word “cracker”? XD

    • Tanveer ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Khan

      They even made an account and and made mention of my Xbox username – I still don’t know how they found out about it. I don’t remember talking about it on Disqus or anywhere else.

    • HSkol

      I suppose he just wants his presence known. Makes little sense to me; but, it is what it is I guess.

    • golden izanagi

      yeah he kept following me too and up voted me on a thread that had nothing to do with loonwatch for some reason.

    • Julieann Wozniak

      Cracker. Worse, an incompetent cracker.

    • Reynardine

      Yeah, he did start out as Santiago Matamoros. He followed Tanveer onto our board, and topped off other kinds of bad behavior by saying Muslim kids should be killed before adolescence… Tanveer is both our only Muslim and our only kid. He got treated kind of rough after that, and eventually banned under that name, but has snuck back as several sock puppets.

    • cmyfe .

      Would this stalker be “Santiago Matamoros”? There is also someone that goes by “Gazastan”. They keep following me and try to reply on my comments on other sites. The first guy makes multiple accounts with same name specifically to target users of loonwatch, especially 1DrM. Such vermin….probably broke anti-Islamists.

    • mindy1

      FFS what kind of idiot tries to START conflicts >:(

    • Reynardine

      Exactly.

      Over at Hatewatch, we thought it was this vile coward of a kidstalker who had been chasing Tanveer all over Disqus, until the kidstalker turned up under another sockpuppet.

    • Yausari

      What’s his excuse? People don’t hate Muslims enough?

For A French Rabbi And His Muslim Team, There’s Work To Be Done

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By Eleanor Beadsley, NPR

Rabbi Michel Serfaty drives to his first appointment of the day, in a suburb south of Paris, just a couple miles from the notorious housing project where gunman Amedy Coulibaly grew up.

Coulibaly is the self-proclaimed Islamist radical who killed a police officer and later four people in a Kosher market in Paris terrorist attacks in January.

France has Europe’s largest Muslim and Jewish communities. For the last decade Serfaty and his team have been working in bleak places like this, trying to promote understanding between the two populations.

Serfaty is still going to the same places since the attacks, but there’s now a team of undercover police officers who accompany him everywhere. Still, The rabbi says he’s more determined than ever.

“These are difficult times for France and especially for French Jews,” he says. “But if anything, we realize our work is even more important.”

The rabbi makes his way into a community center where his French Jewish Muslim Friendship Association has a stand at a local job fair. Serfaty hopes to recruit several more young people to help with community outreach in the largely Muslim, immigrant communities where most people have never even met a Jewish person.

A poster for the French Jewish Muslim Friendship Association, which works in many poor, immigrant neighborhoods.

A poster for the French Jewish Muslim Friendship Association, which works in many poor, immigrant neighborhoods.

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“In these places they often have specific ideas about Jews,” says Serfaty. “And if they’re negative, we bring arguments and try to open people’s eyes to what are prejudices and negative stereotypes. We try to show children, mothers and teenagers that being Muslim is great, but if they don’t know any Jews, well this is how they are, and they’re also respectable citizens.”

Serfaty says people need to realize they must all work together to build France’s future.

The rabbi takes advantage of funding from a government program that helps youths without work experience find their first job. Serfaty takes them on for a period of three years, giving them valuable training in mediation and community relations. Serfaty’s recruits also study Judaism and Islam. And he takes them on a trip to Auschwitz, the Nazi concentration camp.

The rabbi takes advantage of funding from a government program that helps youths without work experience find their first job. Serfaty takes them on for a period of three years, giving them valuable training in mediation and community relations. Serfaty’s recruits also study Judaism and Islam. And he takes them on a trip to Auschwitz, the Nazi concentration camp.

Serfaty is looking to hire three or four new people. With his affable manner and easy laugh, the job interviews are more like a friendly conversation. He needs Muslim employees for his work, but French laws on secularism forbid him from asking applicants about their religion. So Serfaty draws out the candidates’ views and beliefs in discussion — and through provocative questions.

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    • HerrSkolly

      This is not Star Wars? $hi+, I’m on the wrong message board yet again. Dag nabbit!!!

    • HerrSkolly

      “Indoctrination” has become quite loaded with negative connotations in this “Age of Diversity”; but, that need not be so. Indoctrination permits parents, caregivers, and the like an “eternity” that might not otherwise be permitted of them. Indoctrination is usually simply the promotion of a base-belief for one’s own people’s sustenance, not a behavior, not manner of hatred, but simply a manner of living.

      Let us take back this term. Regardless of its current connotations in the negative, it can be quite positive as a term which has (or had) a meaning unto itself.

    • Tanveer ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Khan

      Your comment has just changed my first and last sentences from insults into facts now. Thank you.

      This is not Star Wars. I’m not a padawan. Reread Emir JSB’s comment more carefully.

    • Tanveer ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Khan

      The word “indoctrination” has had quite a negative meaning from the start for me due to it’s extensive use by anti-theists. I guess, because of that, the merriam – webster definition seems to be quite accurate to me.

      Learning about Judaism and Christianity (Judaism in particular) strengthens my belief that Islam is the continuation of the two. Some of the practices and phrases are ridiculously similar. Of course, some people take such things as evidence that the Prophet PBUH simply plagiarised from the two religions but I guess that’s just a good example of how people can conclude different things despite having the exact same sources – which is something that History as a subject has taught me as well. XD

    • Just_Stopping_By

      Well, young Paladin, you may have jumped the gun just a bit, because there is a lesser-known meaning to “indoctrinate” as just teaching:

      indoctrinate: “the act of indoctrinating, or teaching or inculcating a doctrine, principle, or ideology, especially one with a specific point of view” http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/indoctrination

      However, I would agree that the much more common definition is closer to: “to teach (someone) to fully accept the ideas, opinions, and beliefs of a particular group and to not consider other ideas, opinions, and beliefs” http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/indoctrinate

      I actually think the second is a bit stronger than I am used to, as I think someone indoctrinated could still consider other ideas, though they would tend to reject them. To “not consider other ideas, opinions, and beliefs” sounds like the person is what I might call a blind follower, the type who just lashes out at those with different political or religious beliefs, calling them savages (yes, I’m referencing you, Pamela!) or Nazis (referencing everyone who adds to the weight of evidence in favor of Godwin’s Law).

      In fact, learning about the beliefs of Islam and Judaism (or any religion) from either neutral sources or from members of those religions, as opposed to from Islamophobic or Judeophobic sources, tends to make one behave very differently, being more open to alternative approaches not just to religion but other areas as well. The more I learn about Islam, the more open I think I become to other points of view, as I often discover that ideas that I probably just assumed were universally held, at least among monotheists, are not.

    • Tanveer ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Khan

      “It then sounds like he then indoctrinates his employees minds (teaches them Islam and Judaism)” You’re a bit of an idiot. Learning about the beliefs of Islam and Judaism is not “indoctrinating” one’s employees. Learn the difference. Or perhaps you’re too feeble minded to understand such a nuance – I dunno.

    • mindy1

      I wish this group luck

    • mindy1

      Trying to do good, and you are looking for the negative?!

    • JD

      Called fighting hate.. People mix up action of nazi Israel with Jews and Jewish people much like all Muslims are responsible for ISIS which leads to idiot who think shooting rabbi and kids is fighting Israel

    • Palidor

      What a strange article.

      Rabbi Serfaty uses free government money and a team of undercover police officers to run around Sensitive Urban Zones in France. He violates the spirit of the French laws on secularism by openly asking potential employees their political beliefs and prejudices and then only hires Muslims who “harbour no anti-Semitic feelings”.

      It then sounds like he then indoctrinates his employees minds (teaches them Islam and Judaism) and goes on regular tax-payer funded pilgrimages to Aushwitz. I wonder how much of his job consists of going to events and wining and dining? How much money is France wasting on this guy?

Bill Maher Wanted to Remind You: He’s Still A Likud Loving Zionist Who Hates Arabs And Muslims

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Of course one doesn’t expect hypocritical, lying Bill Maher to change his racist beliefs and insecurities about Arabs and Muslims over night; that’s part of the reason people watch him. Bill, like any slime ball politician knows his constituency and they love when he hates on Arabs and Muslims.

Still, it was quite something to see Bill Maher bizarrely defend the almost universally scorned (except by the Republicans) Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu.

I guess he just wanted to remind us, in case we forgot, that he loves himself some Israel.:

By Jack Jenkins, ThinkProgress

Politicians, Jewish advocacy groups, and Rabbis have been highly critical of methods used by Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu to win reelection last week, particularly his short-lived public renunciation of a two-state solution to the Palestinian crisis and his 11th-hour bid to bolster his supporters by warning that “Arab voters are coming in droves to the ballot boxes.” President Barack Obama said the remarks were “contrary to what is the best of Israel’s traditions,” the New York Times editorial board called them “desperate, and craven,” and Rabbi Rick Jacobs, president of the Union for Reform Judaism, noted the tactics were a “naked appeal to his hard-right bases’ fears rather than their hopes.” Several others, including Reform Rabbi Zinkow, said the prime minister’s comments “sound racist.”

But talk show host and self-professed liberal Bill Maher attempted to stifle the growing criticism of Netanyahu on Saturday night. Speaking to a panel that included a GOP strategist and a former Republican lawmaker, Maher challenged claims that the prime minister’s remarks were racist by, confusingly, pointing to America’s own history of using racist political tactics.

“I guess that is racist, in the strictest sense — he’s bringing race into the equation,” Maher said of Netanyahu’s remarks. “But, first of all, like Reagan didn’t win races with racism? Or Nixon? Or Bush? Like they didn’t play the race card? Reagan opened his campaign in Philadelphia, Mississippi, remember that? Remember Willie Horton?”

Maher’s second rant on the subject took an even more bizarre turn, with the host trying to add “a little perspective” by outlining a hypothetical scenario in which America is under siege from “black nations.” He also drew comparisons between Netanyahu’s election and America’s internment of Japanese people during World War II.

“I heard a lot of commentators here say, it would been as if Mitt Romney, in 2012, on the eve of the election said, ‘black voters are coming out in droves to the polls,’” he said. “But I don’t know if that’s really a great analogy. I think that would be a good analogy if America was a country that was surrounded by 12 or 13 completely black nations who had militarily attacked us many times, including as recently as last year. Would we let them vote? I don’t know. When we were attacked by the Japanese, we didn’t just not let them vote, we rounded them up and put them in camps.”

A video of the exchange is below.

Update: By the way, here’s what an apology that isn’t an apology looks like. Get ready for the laughs, provided for by Netanyahu.:

“I wasn’t trying to block anyone from voting. I was trying to mobilize my own forces,” Netanyahu said in an interview with NPR Friday. “And that mobilization was based on Arab money — sorry, on foreign money, a lot of foreign money that was coming in.”

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    • downwithpants

      That’s what every show does panders to their target demographic.

    • sasboy

      I do not care for Bill Maher at all, but I do think he has a valid point.

      The US does have a history of institutionalized racism against Native Americans, blacks, Chinese, Japanese and Italians, mostly though not entirely justified on the basis of its foreign wars.

    • Haddock

      Bill should just come out and say the obvious: he is practically a conservative. Quit trying to be the “liberal hanging on by a thread because of all of dem multi-cultural leftists” and just admit that he is a bigot against Arabs, and own up to it.

    • mindy1

      He panders to his crowd sadly…

    • Reynardine

      Another reason I have never wasted money on cable.

    • Yausari

      No need to remind us, Maher. You’re hard to forget… That’s not a compliment.

    • Just_Stopping_By

      Listening to the clip, it’s clear that none of the speakers can actually deny that Netanyahu’s comments were racist. They only try to “contextualize” or excuse them as politics, etc., meaning that deep down they know that Netanyahu’s statements are simply wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong.

      The best consolation here is that Arab voters did turn out in larger numbers than before and there are 33% more Arab Israeli Members in the incoming Knesset than in the outgoing one. And they are likely to use their numbers to get better positions in various committees.

    • Heinz Catsup

      Really? That’s great if true.

    • Lithium2006

      Good thing is this guy is becoming less relevant. Even his fellow anti-theists are abandoning him gradually.

    • cmyfe .

      Same old Pissrahelli propaganda “surrounded by”, “wipe off the map” etc used to get away after murdering 2,500 children. Hasn’t Pissrahell attacked each of its neighbors? Hasn’t it constantly occupied land of Palestinians and the countries that “surround” it? Pissrahell wasn’t in fact surrounded by anyone, it just jumped in their midst and started glaring and attacking and plundering! History!

    • LiesYouTell

      The fact that HBO recently gave Bill Maher his own sports show proves that the network supports Maher’s Islamophobia and racism. Muslims need to boycott HBO and its parent company Time Warner(owners of Warner Bros., CNN, TNT, Cartoon Network, CW, Comcast, etc) who is responsible for Bill Maher’s paychecks.

‘Half-Breed Jew’ Committed Holocaust, Claims Netanyahu Ally John Hagee

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By Bruce Wilson, Huffington Post

Who committed the Holocaust? For the overwhelming majority of historians and, needless to say, Jews it’s a settled question: Hitler, and his Nazis. But Christians United For Israel (CUFI) head John Hagee, one of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s closest American allies, has a different answer: “half-breed Jews.”

Netanyahu meets frequently with Hagee, endorses CUFI, has spoken at numerous CUFI events, and lavishes Hagee and his organization with praise. Prime Minister Netanyahu is currently scheduled to speak at CUFI’s annual Washington summit, July 13-14 2015.

John Hagee book Jerusalem CountdownHagee’s Christians United For Israel organization currently sells a book by pastor John Hagee, Jerusalem Countdown: A warning To The World, which on page 149 (2006 “revised and updated” paperback edition) claims Adolf Hitler was a “half-breed Jew” and states (p. 97) that Hitler was sent by God, as a “hunter,” to persecute Europe’s Jews and drive them towards “the only home God ever intended for the Jews to have-Israel.”

In 2008 media uproar over Hagee’s “hunter” claim (as made in a 2005 sermon that was exposed by this author) led presidential candidate John McCain to renounce his long-sought endorsement from pastor Hagee.

Hagee’s claim that Hitler was Jewish is not new. In a 2003 sermon broadcast internationally and marketed as a VHS cassette, John Hagee claimed [link to video of sermon] the Antichrist would be “partially Jewish, as was Adolf Hitler, as was Karl Marx.”

CUFI head John Hagee also blames anti-Semitism on Jews themselves, writing in Jerusalem Countdown (p. 56) that “It was the disobedience and rebellion of the Jews… that gave rise to the opposition and persecution that they experienced beginning in Canaan and continuing to this very day.” Hagee’s book then traces (p. 57) the birth of anti-Semitism to Jewish idol worship:

How utterly repulsive, insulting, and heartbreaking to God for his chosen people to credit idols with bringing blessings he had showered upon the chosen people. Their own rebellion had birthed the seed of anti-Semitism that would arise and bring destruction to them for centuries to come.

In Hagee’s account “half-breed Jews,” Hitler included, have served as the human agents by which God implements a divine curse placed upon the racially pure (non-miscegenated) Jewish people.

On page 149 of Hagee’s book Jerusalem Countdown, in a chapter with the ominous title “Who Is a Jew,” Hagee writes,

Esau’s descendants would produce a lineage that would attack and slaughter the Jews for centuries. Esau’s descendants included Haman, whose diabolical mind conceived the “final solution” of the Old Testament — the extermination of all Jews living in Persia. It was Esau’s descendants who produced the half-breed Jews of history who have persecuted and murdered the Jews beyond human comprehension.

Adolf Hitler was a distant descendant of Esau.

In his next sentence, Hagee goes on to make the false claim that in the 1976 book Adolf Hitler: The Definitive Biography, noted Hitler biographer John Toland “records that Hitler was part Jewish.” What Toland actually stated in his Hitler biography was “There is the slight possibility that Hitler’s grandfather was a wealthy Jew named Frankenberger or Frankenreither.”

Hagee’s identification of a miscegenated race of “half-breed Jews” tracing back to Esau seems to originate in theological ideas from the fringe, virulently racist white supremacist Christian Identity movement, as described in books such as Religion and The Racist Right: The Origins of the Christian Identity Movement, by leading authority Dr. Michael Barkun.

While John Hagee has for decades loudly and publicly condemned anti-Semitism, his writings and sermons have nonetheless promoted some of the most influential and inflammatory anti-Jewish tropes of the modern era, such as the claim that predatory Jewish bankers control international finance and prey upon the masses of humankind.

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John Hagee, giving March 23, 2003 sermon

In a March 23, 2003 sermon broadcast internationally, Hagee claimed European Rothschild bankers, along with David Rockefeller, controlled the U.S. economy through the Federal Reserve — which according to Hagee was bankrupting average Americans by devaluing the dollar.

The Jewish Anti-Defamation League identifies this type of Federal Reserve conspiracy theory, that places Jewish bankers at the center of the proposed grand financial conspiracy, as a “classic anti-Semitic myth”

Hagee’s Jewish banker conspiracy theory was astonishingly similar to claims showcased in the 1940 anti-Jewish Nazi propaganda film The Eternal Jew, said to have been produced under supervision of Hitler’s propagandist Joseph Goebbels [link to video footage] .

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Promotional poster for Nazi anti-Jewish propaganda film “Der Ewige Jude” (“The Eternal Jew”)

The Nazi film claimed (see link, above) that Jewish bankers, led by European Rothschilds, had “spread their net of financial influence over the working man” and were using their influence over global finance to “terrorize world [money] markets, world opinion, and world politics.”

In his March 23, 2003 sermon, that was marketed by John Hagee Ministries as a 3-VHS cassette tape series, Hagee explained [video link], to his megachurch members and to audiences viewing Hagee’s sermon on evangelical radio and TV networks across the globe:

It may be shocking to you but I believe that America’s economic problems are not created by market conditions, they are planned and orchestrated to devalue and to destroy the value of the dollar. It was done by an unseen government that I’ll discuss later in this message.

[..]

Our economic destiny is controlled by the Federal Reserve system that is now headed by Alan Greenspan. Think about this. It is not a government institution. It is controlled by a group of Class A stockholders including the Rothschilds of Europe and the David Rockefellers of America…

So get this one thought. The value of the dollar is controlled by an agency which is not controlled by America. You don’t have to have a Ph.D. in finance to understand that. The value of your dollar is controlled by an organization, the Federal Reserve that is not controlled by America. That’s a fact.

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Packaging of John Hagee’s 2003 3-sermon VHS set Iraq: The Final War, that contained Hagee’s March 23, 2003 sermon

Hagee also aired his Jewish banker conspiracy theory in his 1996 book Day of Deception that was reprinted in 2000 in an edition billed as having sold “over 1.1 million copies.” Hagee’s Day of Deception is still sold, by Thomas Nelson publishers. In the book, Hagee makes clear that European Rothschilds (not Rockefellers) have majority shareholder control of the Federal Reserve.

In his March 23, 2003 sermon, Hagee predicted that Jewish financiers were behind a satanic Illuminati plot, based in Europe, that would bring the Antichrist to power. This Antichrist, who in a prior sermon Hagee had predicted would be both partially Jewish and homosexual, would according to Hagee [video link] slaughter up to 1/3 of the world’s population and “make Hitler look like a choirboy”.

Hagee’s claim that Hitler was “partially Jewish” fits into an emerging American right-wing revisionist genre, with both evangelical and secular expressions, that is rewriting the Holocaust by recasting the victims of Nazi persecution, such as Jews, liberals, communists, and homosexuals, as having been themselves the architects of Nazi persecution and the Holocaust.

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    • Laila Muhammad

      in one regard he is right Zionists worked with hitler to move jews from Europe to Palestine those who refuse…d hitler could put into concentration camps…Edwin black’s book ‘transfer agreement’ documents this fact European jews were not going to leave Germany and move to the desert Mideast willingly oy vey

    • YOU REBEL SCUM

      Your referring to “messianic jews” aka Christians in denial.

    • sustapha

      CUFI head John Hagee also blames anti-Semitism on Jews themselves, writing in Jerusalem Countdown (p. 56) that “It was the disobedience and rebellion of the Jews… that gave rise to the opposition and persecution that they experienced beginning in Canaan and continuing to this very day.” The Qur’an gives full details of such disobedience from the forty years of wandering in the desert of Peran to the destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar and Titus. Their disobedience on Muhammad Rasulullah and the punishment they received is however regarded as in human and anti-Semitism. John is right for he did not quote from the Qur’an and is free. How selfish and unfair is civilization and knowledge?

    • Julieann Wozniak

      This loon is exactly the type of person Netanyahu was courting when he made his speech before Congress. I always hated the “Jews for Jesus” crowd, which was yet another 70s-era cult that managed to hang on somehow.

    • Reynardine

      Onion bread is, in fact, half-Jewish bread. It seems that when you can’t get yeast, you can knead peeled and chopped, but unwashed, raw onion into dough, and the natural yeasts between the layers will raise it. When the Jews of Eastern Europe were ghettoized so strictly that they couldn’t get much besides flour and raw onions, they developed onion bread, onion rolls, and onion bagels into a fine art.

    • Reynardine

      Christocranks, aka ril Chrischuns.

    • Cengiz_K

      …between AmericaN and Iraq.. on the other hand the entire paragraph is so wrong on so many levels..

    • Cengiz_K

      … recasting the victims of Nazi persecution, such as Jews, liberals, communists, and homosexuals, as having been themselves the architects of Nazi persecution and the Holocaust….

      this explains where people like “Santiago Matamoros” are getting their ideas from… It really takes some synaptic rearrangement (derangement) to be able to follow this line.. And yes, even Merkelians use this logic for their governing style.. “What? You feel, You are discriminated against? Well, it is Your own fault because of the lack on “integration” You exhibit!” -paraphrased quotations…

    • Reynardine

      There is some possibility that Reinhardt Heydrich had a Jewish grandfather. He was pretty expensive upkeep for the Reich, because, whenever he had to be put up in a hotel, he would shoot out all the mirrors trying to kill the Jew he thought he saw appearing in them. Meanwhile, Josef Mengele, who had a sadistic fascination with Roma people, was described as “looking like a Gypsy.”

    • Friend of Bosnia

      It can’t be discounted that he thought that. That myth also appears in Osamu Tezuka’s “Adolf”. If it were true that Hitler had a Jewish ancestor, it would be general knowledge. What I do know is that Torquemada, who was instrumental in the pursuit of Jews in Spain in the 15th century, was descended of Jews. It can happen that people betray their own, and that just those, to show their loyalty to the oppressor, are worse that those who actually belong to the oppressor’s group. For example the traitors and renegades Emir Kusturica and Fikret Abdic. I think they are much worse than Karadzic or Mladic themselves.

    • downwithpants

      Christian extremists

    • downwithpants

      I love and hate these guys every week it’s the end of the world. When the war between Ukraine and Russia started….same shit “Russia was going to destroy us.. and Jesus will come! *with big shit eater smile on his face*…jack van impe is the same…. I find it ironic that his last name is Imp with an e on the end…..Good try devil! We are constantly in the “end times”

    • downwithpants

      Mmmmmmmm half bread jew…

    • ShunTheRightWhale

      I got the newest fringe theory: Hitler was an Austrian-born German Roman-Catholic! It is even featured in Weltjudentum-controlled Wikipedia:

      “Adolf Hitler (German: [ˈadɔlf ˈhɪtlɐ]; 20 April 1889 – 30 April 1945) was an Austrian-born German politician who was the leader of the Nazi Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP); National Socialist German Workers Party).”

    • Reynardine

      Ron Rosenbaum pretty much debunked that Hitler-was-a-Jew myth. It’s possible , though, that Hitler was afraid it was true.

    • GaribaldiOfLoonwatch

      Anyone notice the description on the back of the packaging for Hagee’s VHS set, Iraq: The Final War

      “The war between American and Iraq is the gateway to the apocalypse. It makes no difference how long the war lasts…2 months or 2 years. It will destabilize the Middle East and produce an Islamic army of millions, willing to fight to the death, in a massive all out Holy War.”

    • mindy1

      drip…drip…drip that was the sound of my brain cells dying in disbelief at the stupidity some people exhibit :/

Barack Obama: ISIS “A Direct Outgrowth Of Our Invasion” Of Iraq

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By Emperor

There is a lot to vehemently disagree on with President Barack Obama like his drone assassination policy and extension/expansion of the war on terror but this time he spoke the obvious truth: The creation and growth of ISIS is a direct consequence of the US invasion of Iraq in 2003. A truth that is self-evident and has already caused an uproar among the war-profiteers.

Shane Smith: One of the biggest questions that I had was how did they become so popular so fast? How did they get so many foreign fighters from America, from the U.K., from Scandinavia, from all over the world, go there, outstrip al Qaeda, almost overnight. So, a, how did they become so popular out of nowhere? And then, b, how do we stop them?

President Obama: ISIL is direct outgrowth of Al-Qaida  in Iraq which grew out of our invasion which is an example of unintended consequences which is why we should generally aim before we shoot.

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    • fights

      And Obama has done zero to stop it.

    • downwithpants

      We = mericans Yous = non mericans

    • The content of your post is profoundly RACIST, with distinction; and certainly does not deserve a response, from me, except on loving the country: I leave loving the country to you, baby, until you are full of your kind of love, to a gloating point, after which your behind delivers stinky hot air, each time you open your polluted mouth to preach to others how to love their country. Baby, you need a lot of help to develop a genuine love of country. You think you have it, but sadly you really do not. Your post shows it.

    • JAZ Z

      Yes! Of course, poor helpless Muslims. What was their fault when 29 nations including US raped every inch of their land by carpet bombing ruthlessly. Anybody could imagine the plight of Iraqi innocent children, women and elders, who were already feeble, humiliated by the almost 13 years of imposed sanctions even for food and medicines too. To feel all that crisis one requires to be human. Alas! you were among us “the humans”. Single excerpt below from wikipedia is enough to describe the situation in Iraq: Denis J. Halliday (Irish) was appointed United Nations Humanitarian Coordinator in Baghdad, Iraq as of 1 September 1997, at the Assistant Secretary-General level. In October 1998 he resigned after a 34-year career with the UN in order to have the freedom to criticize the SANCTIONS regime, saying “I don’t want to administer a program that satisfies the definition of GENOCIDE”. Better you read in his own golden words: Denis J. Halliday “I was driven to resignation because I refused to continue to take Security Council orders, the same Security Council that had imposed and sustained genocidal sanctions on the innocent of Iraq. I did not want to be complicit. I wanted to be free to speak out publicly about this CRIME.” “And above all, my innate sense of justice was and still is outraged by the violence that UN sanctions have brought upon, and continues to bring upon, the lives of children, families – the extended families, the loved ones of Iraq. There is no justification for killing the young people of Iraq, not the aged, not the sick, not the rich, not the poor.” “Some will tell you that the leadership is punishing the Iraqi people. That is not my perception, or experience from living in Baghdad. And were that to be the case – how can that possibly justify further punishment, in fact collective punishment, by the United Nations? I don’t think so. And international law has no provision for the disproportionate and murderous consequences of the ongoing UN embargo – for well over 12 long years.” Even Halliday’s successor, Hans von Sponeck, subsequently also resigned in protest, calling the effects of the sanctions a “true human tragedy”.

      British writer Harold Pinter declared in his 2005 Nobel Prize acceptance speech:

      “We have brought torture, cluster bombs, depleted uranium, innumerable acts of random murder, misery, degradation and death to the Iraqi people and call it ‘bringing freedom and democracy to the Middle East’. How many people do you have to kill before you qualify to be described as a mass murderer and a war criminal? One hundred thousand? More than enough, I would have thought. Therefore it is just that Bush and Blair be arraigned before the International Criminal Court of Justice”. “1990-2011 Iraqi deaths from US Alliance violence (1.7 million) or violently-imposed deprivation (2.9 million) total 4.6 million and one can in 2015 paraphrase this great humanitarian: “How many people do you have to kill before you qualify to be described as a mass murderer and a war criminal? 4.6 million? More than enough, I would have thought”. Visit url below for further details; http://www.globalresearch.ca/12th-anniversary-of-the-illegal-invasion-of-iraq-the-anglo-american-iraqi-genocide/5438977

      Re: “…. a good many of you here just hate America.”

      Could you please locate the word “America” in my previous comment? But surely, it’s your conscience (which is murdered repeatedly) compelling you to feel guilty.

    • JAZ Z

      Re: As you started “One solid fact I will present below….” I suggest, better you make a roll of your absurd “Solid facts” already printed in the coward, bigoted, intolerant and venomous (but your respected) western news media and ask them how to use these rolled facts inside, to further enhance the script of your fairy-tales.

    • JAZ Z

      What you wrote ” Morruwah ” or ” MORU ‘ AH ” is written like this “مروعة” in Arabic and the meaning is “Awesome” ref; to dictionary.com. Now you tell me what did YOU mean by this word? But, there’s completely different word in English “VENGEANCE” which has, revenge, retaliation, retribution as its synonyms. Did you mean that? If yes, then I would like to cry for your dumbness. Why are you wasting other’s precious time?

    • JAZ Z

      Ah ! ! ! literally, I’m fed up with your futile babbling repeatedly. You are the lone creature over this land, a top order ignoramus, who’s become so ignoble in hostility that, has totally lost the ability of discernment. Don’t you feel ashamed while defending the atrocities of West. It’s okay, your bread n butter is secured with them, but there’s an important object called “conscience”, which also matters. But, that’s meaningless to the immoral creatures like you. Did you ever think why US+28 nations encroached Iraq? Was it logical to search WMD by using WMD itself? Who has given US or any nation, the authority to encroach others land? This is nothing but International hooliganism. If anybody refers to the cruelty and oppression of the Saddam’s regime, then I don’t find a bigger blind stupid on this earth, looking to the present situation in Iraq. But, you’ll never get that, since you’re also one among them. There are tens of nations in the world where more cruelty or brutality is existent, what these nations would do there? Are these western nations ‘International Contract Killers’? Moreover, you didn’t dare to reply (even touch) to my listed queries, instead you created a new tale of portraits on poker playing cards theory. Hahaha! What a moronic statement. You wrote “Iraqis officials, who were wanted by United States military occupation forces and the CIA”. This statement of your’s is an evidence of a hidden Conspiracy. Is Iraq under US territory? Or under American Government? Who is US to arrest other nations’ officials? There’s lot of atrocities over the African Americans, so would US allow it’s officials to be prosecuted by any other nation? As you’ve admitted above “US military occupation forces”, foriegn military occupation means oppression and tyranny. Re: “So were other Iraqi high Ba’athist officials, under Saddam Hussein, who have never been captured by the occupation forces.” Similarly, you’ll never refrain from issuing stupid and moronic statements. Re: “He has to rely upon…. colleagues of Ba’athists…. generals and army officers…. photographs were not on any card of the 54 deck / pack of cards” Your tale of stupidity continues endlessly, without any evidence.

      Re: “VEANGENCE” for ” Morruwah ” or ” MORU ‘ AH ” means in Arabic. Instead, you could have provided direct definition of VEANGENCE in English, if it really exists…

    • One solid fact I will present below will completely and totally show how ignorant you are and all what you post, on this thread, reflect so poorly on you, as claims or hallucinations: You, fool, must know that the Iraqis officials, who were wanted by United States military occupation forces and the CIA, were only 54 Iraqi public figures, starting with Saddam Hussein, Izzat Ibrahim, who was Saddam’s Vice President Tareq Aziz, who was Iraq’s Foreign Minister etc.. The photographs of those most wanted Ba’athists were printed on the cards of a deck of poker playing cards, and were distributed to the American troops to capture them, if they saw them and should take them into custody. The American occupiers had done a good job in capturing many of the 54 most wanted Iraqis, but not all. Izzat Ibrahim, who was Saddam’s Vice President, has not been captured till this present time. So were other Iraqi high officials, under Saddam Hussein, who have never been captured by the occupation forces. It has been reported, every now and then, by Iraqi and other Arab news media that Izzat Ibrahim has been waging arm-resistance against the Iranian influence in Iraq, as he had done against the American occupiers when they occupied Iraq. Izzat Ibrahim could not carry on the needed resistance by himself alone. He has to rely upon his former colleagues of Ba’athists who were generals and army officers of all ranks. This one single piece of factual information should be enough to make any SENSIBLE human being, who claims and hallucinates, as you do, feels ashamed of his rude bragging for what he or she has never been able to be anything else. Take this advice from an old man: Learn what the word, ” Morruwah ” or ” MORU ‘ AH ” means in Arabic. If you can understand all the meanings for what this particular word stands for in Arabic, then and only then, you will be able to understand what VEANGENCE, to Iraqi Ba’athists like IZZAT IBRAHIM and his followers of Ba’athists really means. Otherwise, you will remain enslaved by your miserable conspiracy theory. I really have no more time to waste on your garbage. Enough is Enough, my boy.

    • Your ” truth ? ” and your ” courage ? ” are only self-defeating to the mentality within the bones of your empty head. You have no facts and no evidences, let alone logic. You have only claims and hallucinations and they will remain as such: claims and hallucinations, as long as your conspiracy theory keeps enslaving the f****d up way in which you think, post and behave. Grow-up, boy. You only are fooling yourselves with your ” truth ? ” and your ” courage ? ” and your ” very simple “logic? ” Pity and also Sad, indeed !! .

    • JAZ Z

      Pity on you rather. It happens, usually to any body, when so many solid evidences surround, one has no way out to escape. Moreover, my arguments were very simple, logic and to the point. Is there a limit, how many realities would you deny? Have courage, and at least, search for the truth.

    • GaribaldiOfLoonwatch

      Thanks for clearing that up pops!

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