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Gaffney Still Fearmongering About Sharia In U.S.

On Fox News’ Fox & Friends, right-wing pundit and former Assistant Secretary of Defense Frank Gaffney baselessly claimed that “Muslim Brotherhood front organizations” are influencing the U.S. government and are pushing “subversive techniques” to impose Sharia law in the U.S. Gaffney has a history of using Fox News to push his conspiracy theories about Sharia law.

Gaffney Baselessly Suggests “Muslim Brotherhood Front Organizations” Are Infiltrating U.S. Govt., Institutions

Gaffney Baselessly Claims “Muslim Brotherhood Front Organizations” Have “Intensive Influence” On U.S. Government’s View Of Muslims. During the January 31 edition of Fox News’ Fox & Friends, co-host Gretchen Carlson discussed the recent protests in Egypt with Frank Gaffney, President of the American Center for Security Policy. After talking about the possible extent of the Muslim Brotherhood’s role in the Egyptian protests, Gaffney went on to further suggest that “councils of the United States government…have been subjected to intensive influence operations by known Muslim Brotherhood front organizations in this country to believe that these guys are somehow nonviolent.” [Fox News, Fox & Friends, 1/31/11]

Gaffney Fearmongers Over “Sharia-Compliant Finance” And “Insinuations Of Sharia Into Our Courts.” Gaffney also told Carlson:

GAFFNEY: I think as we say in our book, it’s much more the case that [Muslim Brotherhood front organizations] are pre-violent [rather than nonviolent]. They will use violence when the circumstances are right and in the meantime, they’re using subversive techniques of various kinds, including Sharia-compliant finance and various kinds of insinuations of Sharia into our courts and other ways to try to accomplish their ultimate objective, which is to bring Sharia about worldwide. [Fox News, Fox & Friends, 1/31/11]

Gaffney Refers To Gaza As The “So-Called Palestinian Area.” Responding to one of Carlson’s questions about the extent of the Muslim Brotherhood’s activities in the Middle East, Gaffney referred to the Gaza Strip as the “so-called Palestinian area.” [Fox News, Fox & Friends, 1/31/11]

Gaffney Has A History Of Incendiary And Islamophobic Attacks

Gaffney: “The Left” And “The Islamists…Are Advancing The Takedown Of America.” On the August 23, 2010, edition of Fox News’ The Glenn Beck Show, Gaffney told host Glenn Beck:

I think there’s a commonality of interests between folks who embrace what we’ve talked about before, as kind of the transnational agenda of the left and the transnational agenda of the Islamists … They are working in concert in a lot of different ways that are advancing the takedown of the America, the mutation, or fundamental transformation of America in ways that will, I’m afraid, make it much more difficult for us to stop either of these agendas at our expense. [Fox News, The Glenn Beck Show8/23/10]

Gaffney: Obama Administration “Has Exhibited A Sympathy…For The Agenda…Of The Muslim Brotherhood.” Also on the August 23, 2010, edition of The Glenn Beck Show, Gaffney told Beck, “I think this administration has exhibited a sympathy, and the president particularly, a sympathy for the agenda of folks who are, in fact, under one front organization or another of the Muslim Brotherhood, seeking to promote Sharia in America.” Gaffney went on to claim, “Virtually any Muslim-American organization in this country, of any prominence, is a Muslim Brotherhood front,” and referenced the Holy Land Foundation case. In fact, the organizations Gaffney is referencing donated to the Holy Land Foundation before it was uncovered that the organization was secretly funneling money to terrorists. [Fox News, The Glenn Beck Show8/23/10Media Matters2/18/107/27/10]

Gaffney Wrote That Signs With “‘Sharia’ Lettered In Dripping, Blood-red Ink” Were “Informed Opposition” To The Park 51 Mosque. On August 26, 2010, Gaffney wrote in an op-ed in theWashington Times that protesters of the Park 51 mosque “had come together … in informed opposition to the impetus behind that mosque: Sharia.” As an example of “informed opposition,” he pointed to “signs [throughout the crowd] with just the word ‘Sharia’ lettered in dripping, blood-red ink.” [Washington Times8/26/10]

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    • Abdulmajid

      Unfortunately one just needas to open the comment section of just about any article which in any way deals with Muslims to read such disgusting genocidal inflammatory vitriolic hate messages like “It is time to implemet the Final Solution for Muslims because they have in 1400 years killed a million zillion grillion Christans and Jews, because tehy want to convert all by force ort kill them, because Islam is evil by nature, because as opposed to Christianity the religion of love, Islam is the religion of evil blah blah blah”, the same wordings of Radovan Karadzic and his cronies; and one could get the impression that the Americans have turned into a nation of genocidal, racist, fascist, bigot, white-supermacist, anti-Muslim simpletons and morons. Like the Serbs. They can say “The West has left behind the days of the Crusades, of the Inquisition, of the witch burnings etc.” Maybe so, but what did that same West in the 20th century? The wholesale colonialist massacres in Africa and the Middle East, not just but mainly against Muslims; and ironically in Ethiopia against one of the oldest Christian nations on Earth; the Holocaust; Stalinism and the Gulag; Nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the fire-bombing of civilians in Japan and Germany; Agent Orange in Vietnam; supporting murderous tyrannical genocidal cleptocratic regimes like that of Saddam Hussein, Mubarak or Nazarbayev. All that was committed not by Muslims, but by Christians, or at least by people who claim a Christian background, no doubt feeling that they did no wrong, because since “Jesus already has redeemed their sins by his death on the Cross”, any sins future generations of Christians might commit, then it is all right if they commit all kinds of hideous crimes. They constantly do the opposite of what they preach. As the Mahatma Gandhi once said “You Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Right he was! In the name of their “religion of love” they have tried to subdue and conquer all the world and have always done the most horrible acts of violence to all non-white populations. And yet they have the #u(&ing NERVE to say “Christians are the victims, the world is in danger of being subverted by the Islamic Caliphate!” I must correct myself, these are not simpletons, they are incredibly malicious and evil, they are the nazis of today, they say about Muslims what the Nazis said about Jews, in all impunity, and if I had the misfortune of knowing such a person I think I must punch him until he bleeds to get out all that evil from his head, but unfortunately the evil of such persons will only be gone when they are gone, and maybe not even then. Such people are not above sending anybody they don’t happen to like to their deaths, coldly smiling, without hesitating so much as a second. That’s why I call them genocidals. And their feeling so superior to the Mooslims, because “the West may have done terrible things with the Crusaeds, the witch hunts, the slave trade” and they conveniently forget that the way they talk about Muslims exactly as Bernard of Clairvaux and Pope Urban VII (“Deus lo vult”; anyone with a minimum of education should know what I’m talking about) and the Grand Inquisitor Cardinal Cisneros, one of the most prominent figures of the ethnic cleansing of Muslims from the Iberian Peninsula in the 16th century and who personally fought military campaigns in North Africa. Namely: “The Muslims are evil, kill all Muslims!” It is good and commendable of you to expose these people for what they are, but they are not just loonies (certainly they are as crazy as a nut house), they are as dangerous as the Nazis were! Mark my words, they are as evil and dangerous as the Nazis and should they ever get power in the USA they will turn it into a clerical-fascist dictatorship of the most evil sort.

    • mike

      Speaking of loons. Remember our friend David Wood? He is going to be interviewing our other friend Anjem Chauidary on a Christian TV Show.. Haha I think this is going to be the best comedy act of the year. Topic: Would Shariah help the West. Let the freak show begin … Gaffney has already lost touch with reality..

    • CNN: Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood: A force to be feared?

      “The Muslim Brotherhood has nothing to do with the Iranian model, has nothing to do with extremism as we have seen it in Afghanistan and other places. The Muslim Brotherhood is a religiously conservative group. They are a minority in Egypt,” he (Elbaradei) told CNN.

      “I have been reaching out to them. We need to include them. They are part of the Egyptian society, as much as the Marxist party here,” he said.

      He rejected the idea that Islamic fundamentalists are set to undermine Egypt.

      “This is a myth that was sold by the Mubarak regime — that it’s either us, the ruthless dictators, or… the al Qaeda types,” he said.

      Analyst Abulhimal is convinced Egyptians would not let the Muslim Brotherhood seize power — not least because the military would stand in its way.

      “Neither the people nor the secular leaders would allow the Muslim Brotherhood to take it, and more importantly the army would never allow the Muslim Brotherhood to take it,” he said. “If the army said, ‘We would support the people in the street and we would have a deal with President Mubarak to have an orderly transition,’ as the Americans said yesterday — this would definitely not include the Muslim Brotherhood.”

      http://articles.cnn.com/2011-01-31/world/egypt.muslim.brotherhood_1_egypt-s-muslim-brotherhood-ayman-nour-protests?_s=PM:WORLD

    • Gaffney reminds me of the the old segregationists of yesterday. Quite a few of them in our history had long successful lives feeding racists fantasies such as Gaffney’s. Racist talk is popular with Americans; it seems to strike a chord with people. Can we think of a public official who has been marginalized because of it? That’s something Gaffney a very astute figure has picked up on.

  • mindy1

    What on earth is he smoking??? What on earth is he thinking

Joe Kaufman O-Meter #4: Paying Homeless Folk to Attend his “Protests”

Joe Kaufman

What did we expect from Joe “nuke the Mooslims” Kaufman? For years now the gum-shoe “investigative journalist” has been gathering his handful of protesters to demonstrate at the conferences, gatherings, festivals and events of American Muslim organizations or leaders.

By now most in the American Muslim community and otherwise view Kaufman and his handful of protesters as curious sideshow distractions, oddities, mere nuisances and objects of fitful laughter, kinda like the Westboro Baptist Church people or Pastor Terry Jones.

Kaufman’s crew recently had one such protest on Jan, 08, 2011 at an ISNA (Islamic Society of North America) event in his home state of Florida:

Here’s a sampling of some of the…”Interesting”…messages:

“What’s Next, Fort Hood?” and “Don’t Tread on Me” flag

Granma’s scared of Mooslims:

“No Islam” and “Obama evil Mooslim”

If they weren’t holding signs claiming that “Obama (the “b” is replaced to read Osama) chooses Muslim needs to show victory over Americans…” and other general wacky anti-Muslim conspiracy theories you’d think a group of senior citizens had gathered on the corner waiting to be picked up to go to their weekly bingo game.

This in it self would be comedic gold, but it doesn’t stop there, a source who wishes to stay anonymous informed us that Kaufman and his buddies are asking homeless people to join their protests in return for pizza and spare change.

“Red” is on the bike

After Kaufman’s most recent protest ended our source noticed that they left one of their fellow protesters behind, a local homeless man who goes by the name “Red.”

Red we are told is a very nice man, he told our source that he was “paid in pizza to help in the protest” and he was also given some “spare change.” He didn’t know what the protest was about, but he was hungry and wanted to eat. So he helped!

The source also mentioned homeless people in photos of previous protests that Joe Kaufman and Americans Against Hate held, such as the one at the Islamic Center In Pompano Beach. He was told by Muslim neighbors of the Center that the people at Joe Kaufman’s protest are local homeless people.

For Kaufman this may be a new low, trying to up his pathetically low numbered “protests” by paying homeless folk. I can’t say I am surprised at Kaufman’s sleazy antics, just astonished that there are even a handful wasting their retirement. I guess the moral of the story is if you’re ever hungry and near a Kaufman protest you can assure yourself some Dominoes pizza…but unlike the homeless individual who was truly hungry you might be selling your soul, and we all know how hard it is get your soul back once you sell it for yummy food:

Who is he?:

Joe Kaufman, has been on the Anti-Muslim scene for quite a while now and is dubbed by the far Right-Wing FrontPageMag as, you guessed it…another one of their ”Investigative Journalists.”  That he has been influenced by Meir Kahane and the Kahanist ideology is well documented, as is his love and angst for Kahane.

In the past he has been accused of contributing to the terrorist organization founded by Kahane known as JDL (Jewish Defense League) while others accuse Kaufman of at the very least holding views that parallel JDL positions.

Kaufman’s unsavory associations and views are quite real and they are only dangerous to America if you’re stupid enough to swallow his conspiracy theories but other than that he is simply a half-baked paranoid conspiracy theorist, some what along the lines of the “9/11 Truthers.”

In every nook and cranny there is a “Mooslim”…hiding and ready to get ya…so beware and be afraid. Be veryyyy afraid goes his story.

In this special LoonWatch series we will detail the exploits and punchlines that Krazy Kaufman throws out there and attempts to pass on as serious journalism, commentary and investigation.

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    • joe

      Anonymous reports of a homeless guy getting paid to protest.

      Contrast with left wing traitors like yourself getting jihad passes for shilling for Muslim Brotherhood.

    • NassirH

      How ridiculous of me to ridicule your comparison of a lone wolf to an unruly mob of thousands.

      Actually, you suggested that people who attempt to burn and bomb mosques aren’t against religious freedom for Muslims. That’s even obvious in my comment which you copy/pasted.

    • Yes, because the Southerners who attempt to bomb or burn down mosques obviously support freedom of religion for Muslims. How ridiculous of me to suggest that people who commit violence against Muslim believe otherwise.

      How ridiculous of me to ridicule your comparison of a lone wolf to an unruly mob of thousands.

    • Mosizzle

      “One guy with a Molotov cocktail vs thousands in an unruly mob”

      Not how Spencer, your idol, sees it. If one Muslim does something bad he will act like he did it because of Islam and as a result Muslims are guilty of the criminal’s crime and should do something about it.

      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/12/finland-albanian-muslim-kills-five-people-in-mall-shooting-spree.html

      I rest my case.

      (Note: He did say “maybe he did” have another motive. But we know what he’s implying by pasting that on jihadwatch — that is was an act of Jihad and he expresses doubt that he did it for any other reason. Even though major news outlets that covered the story found he did it because his ex-girlfriend (real devout Muslim here!) worked in the shopping mall)

  • NassirH

    Yes, I’m sure someone could be fond of your hypothetical scenario.

    Yes, because the Southerners who attempt to bomb or burn down mosques obviously support freedom of religion for Muslims. How ridiculous of me to suggest that people who commit violence against Muslim believe otherwise.

    It’s quite funny that you’re accusing me of ‘hypothesizing’, considering that you believe that Jundullah is brave enough to utilize suicide bombings but simply too scared to announce their desire for a Sunni Islamic theocracy in Iran (although the group has explicitly said that it has no such desires). Again, your blatant hypocrisy is getting tiresome.

    But the only unruly mobs attacking religious minorities, playboy editors, cartoonists, alleged blasphemers, papal statements, Terry Jones and Danish embassies are Islamic.

    Unsurprisingly, you again bring up incidents in the Muslim world in an effort to justify your own bigotry and violence perpetrated against Muslims—just as I hypothesized. Oh well, I wouldn’t have anything better if I were you either.

    PS: https://www.loonwatch.com/2010/11/a-victory-for-the-constitution-ok-bill-struck-down/#comment-40306

    You still didn’t answer my question on that page.

On Gaffney’s Radio Show, Rep. King Suggests Muslims Aren’t American

On point piece from Sarah Posner, another writer who was an extraordinary “anti-Loon” in 2010. It goes to show that despite all of Rep. King’s protestations that his hearings are innocent of bigotry his statements prove otherwise.

On Gaffney’s Radio Show, Rep. King Suggests Muslims Aren’t American

by Sarah Posner (Religion Dispatches)

Lee Fang at Think Progress reports that Rep. Peter King (R-NY), chair of the House Homeland Security Committee who plans on holding hearings on the “radicalization” of American Muslims, said on Frank Gaffney’s radio program last week that Muslims aren’t real Americans in combatting terrorism:

Joining anti-Muslim conspiracy theorist Frank Gaffney on Gaffney’s radio program last week, King doubled down on his promise to launch a witch-hunt against Muslims. He repeated a falsehood that he stated earlier — that American Muslims never cooperate to combat terrorism. But in addition to this claim, King made the extraordinary smear that American Muslims aren’t “American” when it comes to war. “[W]hen a war begins,” King said, every ethnic and religious group unites as “Americans.” “But in this case,” King continued, referring to Muslims, “this is not the situation. … Whether it’s cultural tradition, whatever, the fact is the Muslim community does not cooperate anywhere near to the extent that it should.”

As I reported last week, Gaffney has disgusted some conservatives with his anti-Muslim bigotry; one Muslim conservative activist, Suhail Khan, told me that is why Gaffney has beenexcluded from next month’s Conservative Political Action Conference. Yet that doesn’t stop CPAC from including a group like the David Horowitz Freedom Center, which supportsFront Page magazine, which has promoted Gaffney’s work, including Gaffney’s smear of Khan.

As King’s willingness to appear on Gaffney’s radio show and affirm his notions that Muslims can’t be real Americans shows, Gaffney is not the pariah some in CPAC might contend he is. By way of another example, as I reported, Gaffney was appointed to the advisory board of the Clarion Fund, whose Islamophobic propaganda films have been promoted by current and former elected officials and the Republican Jewish Committee, and which plans to screen its latest documentary, Iranium, to lawmakers early next month.

Gaffney has been peddling the bogus claim that shari’ah law represents a real threat to the Constitution, and has called on Congress to “investigate” that as well. He employs someone who believes being Muslim should be criminalized. He brought that dog and pony show to Capitol Hill late last year for the benefit of House staffers, and spoke to a room of about 50 people. It surely is a deeply troubling development that King is cavorting with Gaffney and pontificating about the “Americanism” of American Muslims, in light of Gaffney’s agitation about fifth columns of shari’ah proponents bent on undermining the Constitution.

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    • muhammad ‘abd-al haqq

      How does supporting war indicate one’s “Americanness” of Muslims. dissent and freedom to dissent are just as American. nationalism is definitely the new tribalism. i am all for fighting terrorism, but nowadays joining the US military almost always guarantees that a Muslim soldier will be fighting fellow Muslims.Refusal to support war is not the same as aiding and abetting terrorist enemies.

      Allahu A’lam

    • Layla

      Gafney also appeared as an expert witness in the trial of the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro, TN. He told us that Sharia Law is taking over but he actually TESTIFIED in court that he is not an expert on Sharia Law.

    • mindy1

      oh, okay

    • Al

      No it was WWI, thus the fallout of Germany’s humiliating defeat where the Jews took an inactive role in the war movement (so the story goes…actually 100,000 Jews fought with Germany). Here is a link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stab-in-the-back_legend

    • mindy1

      @AL, that was WWII, but yes talk like that is disconcerting

    • Al

      “King made the extraordinary smear that American Muslims aren’t “American” when it comes to war. “[W]hen a war begins,” King said, every ethnic and religious group unites as “Americans.” “But in this case,” King continued, referring to Muslims, “this is not the situation. …”

      This sounds remarkably similiar to the German argument regarding the Jewish populace during WWI…

Frank Gaffney Thinks Some Conservatives are Muslim Brotherhood

Frank Gaffney

More wackiness from Gaffney.

Conservatives claim anti-tax crusader secretly leading Muslim indoctrination

(RAWstory)

Are a growing cross-section of American conservatives really secret Muslims bent on destroying western civilization?

Answer: No.

But that’s not stopping right-wing activist Frank Gaffney from claiming the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) had been infiltrated by radical Muslims because of the inclusion of Americans for Tax Reform president Grover Norquist and former Bush staffer Suhail Khan.

American Conservative Union (ACU), the oldest conservative lobbying organization in the country which hosts CPAC, is involved in a “stealthy effort to bring Shariah” to the United States, according to Gaffney.

“This is a ticking time bomb for the conservative community,” he told the conservative conspiracy website WorldNetDaily. “An influence operation is contributing materially to the defeat of our country.”

Gaffney alleges that Norquist and Khan are secretly working for the Muslim Brotherhood, a radical Islamist group, and trying to influence conservative groups in a plot to “Islamize” America. Both Khan and Norquist are ACU board members.

Khan, a conservative activist who previously worked for the Bush administration, allegedly has ties to the radical Islamists from his time as consultant for The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). He has also served on committees at the Islamic Society of North America, according to Gaffney.

Gaffney also claimed that Khan’s father was a founding member of the Muslim Brotherhood in America. In a report by Talking Points Memo, Khan called the allegation “laughable” and said his father was from India, noting that the Muslim Brotherhood was formed in Egypt.

He is now a senior fellow for Christian-Muslim Understanding at the Institute for Global Engagement.

Norquist, founder of the conservative Americans for Tax Reform, was also accused of secretly providing the Muslim Brotherhood with access into the highest reaches of the conservative movement.

“Grover Norquist is credentialing the perpetrators of this Muslim Brotherhood influence operation,” Gaffney said. “This is part of tradecraft, to get people who have standing in a community to give it to people who lack it, so they can do what they’re assigned to do in terms of subversion. We are in a war, and he has been working with the enemy for over a decade.”

Gaffney is no stranger to making wildly unsubstantiated claims. He said in 2009 that there was mounting evidence that President Barack Obama “not only identifies with Muslims, but actually may still be one himself.”

“The man now happy to have his Islamic-rooted middle name featured prominently has engaged in the most consequential bait-and-switch since Adolf Hitler duped Neville Chamberlain over Czechoslovakia at Munich,” he added.

CPAC was facing a boycott from a number of conservative groups for inviting the conservative gay Republican group GOProud to the conference. The Family Research Council, Concerned Women For America, American Values, the American Principles Project, the Capital Research Center, the Center for Military Readiness, Liberty Counsel, and Liberty University have said they will not attend the conference in February.

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    • Abdullah

      *sigh*

      Are my countrymen and women so stupid as to elect this dolt? It’s an INSANE amount of paranoia.

    • bintal3aasifeh

      This guy is real?

    • ProtoPat

      “Norquist, founder of the conservative Americans for Tax Reform, was also accused of secretly providing the Muslim Brotherhood with access into the highest reaches of the conservative movement.”

      So, the whole right-wing noise about the Park51 Islamic Community Center and the “creeping” Shariah Law in America was just a huge bluff to plant the seeds of Islamic domination of America?

    • Rob

      Be scared..buy my book.

    • FXG

      lol @surya dharma

  • Surya Dharma

    @Tarig & Yusuf. Watch out you guys. You blowing the perfectly good cover we had on Pinky (Commie) and the Brain (-y Mooslim)

Your Whacked Out Pamela Geller Rant of the Day

Charles Johnson over at LGF launches into Pamela.

Your Whacked Out Pamela Geller Rant of the Day

A classically incoherent run-on title from the Shrieking Harpy introduces her latest outrageous outrage:

JIHADIST DEVELOPERS OF GROUND ZERO MOSQUE HIT UP 9/11 FUND TO REBUILD LOWER MANHATTAN FOR $5 MILLION JIZYA TO ERECT ISLAMIC SUPREMACIST MEGA-MOSQUE

Imagine the gall of these Islamic supremacists. The very idea that the infidels should finance the second wave of 911 attacks on the American people again exhibits the contempt Rauf and his gang have for the filthy kuffar.

Here’s what her latest asinine Crusade is about: the developers of Park51 have applied for funding from the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation, which was set up after the 9/11 attacks to help distribute federal funds to businesses, for the improvement of lower Manhattan. The fund was set up specifically for projects like the Cordoba House, which proposes to take an abandoned eyesore of a building and turn it into a world class community center open to all. I don’t know if they’ll receive the funding, but it certainly qualifies under the intent of the LMDC.

But Geller and her Bigot Brigade are raging out of control again, because in their universe it’s obvious that none of that money was ever intended to get into the hands of Muslims. In other words, you’re looking at pure naked bigotry, unashamed, ignorant, and proud of it.

A footnote: Geller is always claiming that she doesn’t hate Muslims, she’s not a bigot, etc., all while spewing the most disgusting slurs, insults and hate speech. For example, this post: BLIND GIRL SAVES FOR THREE YEARS TO BUY A GUIDE HORSE BECAUSE HER STRICT MUSLIM PARENTS CONSIDER DOGS UNCLEAN.

You can tell how much sympathy Geller has for this blind Muslim woman by her comment:

Why not a goat? Isn’t that cheaper? (/sarc)

Hurr hurr.

UPDATE at 11/23/10 6:55:20 pm:

Some facts about the plans for Cordoba House:

The majority of the center will be open to the general public and its proponents have said the center will promote interfaith dialogue. It will contain a Muslim prayer space that has controversially[7][8] been referred to as the “Ground Zero mosque”. It would replace an existing 1850s Italianate-style building that was being used as a Burlington Coat Factory before it was damaged in the September 11, 2001 attacks. The proposed multi-faith aspects of the design include a 500-seat auditorium, theater, a performing arts center, a fitness center, a swimming pool, a basketball court, a childcare area, a bookstore, a culinary school, an art studio, a food court, and a memorial to the victims of the September 11 attacks. The prayer space for the Muslim community will accommodate 1,000–2,000 people.

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    • Mendacity Exposed

      Moon-god Myth-maker Morey as seen by his fellow Christians (from the “Pakistan Christian Post”)

      “Robert A. Morey, treacherous thief, malicious person, third rate scholar, self appointed bishop, who is misleading the Christians and Pakistani Christians living in North America and with his spite, malice he has corrupted the Christianity. There is no doubt in my mind that Robert Morey is an Insane Monster misleading the Christians of North America. He claims to be a scholar and authority on Islam yet al he does or has done so far is nothing different that an “illiterate Mullah” of a remote village of Pakistan. He is a “fame hungry” person and will do any thing that could bring his name to lime light.”

    • Awesome

      @Halal Pork

      Jesus Christ is a Muslim, and his religion is Islam.

    • laila

      Mosizzle Says “Seems to me like its a still from a video. If your worried about your screen cracking due to her face, wait till you hear her voice, your speakers will commit suicide”

      lol thanks 4 da warning.

    • Mr Pork, I am appalled by both Saudi and the Taliban and condemn their actions, much as every Muslim I know is appalled by them. To try and compare 1.57billion Muslims to a handful of extremists is stupid and dumb. Not only is Saudi one nation, many of it’s own citizens disagree with it’s government policies. As for the Taliban, they are but a handful of people who are hated by all I can see. No, they do not represent Islam in any way, name, shape or form. I challenge you to show me how they do, you can add it to my list of challenges to you that you have failed to accomplish. Once again, I expect you will fail.

      As for Afghanistan, it is in a mess due to meddling, first by the British, then the Soviets and now the US. It was once a very stable area, not so know due to outside influence and colonialism. Islam cannot be blamed for that.

      Peace

    • @ Jack Cope :As a Muslim,I am commanded to take all knowledge without prejudice.Are you telling the whole truth?Are you a better Muslim than the Muslims from Saudi Arabia where 1400 years ago,Islam was forged.Try to take a copy of the Holy Bible into that country?It would be binned in front of your very eyes.Do you know what was done to the ancient Budha statues in Afghanistan by the Taliban?Do you not consider them to be Muslims?They in fact represent the true face of Islam.Afghanistan was once a Buddist country and you can see what state it is in today.Islam is a curse for humanity,Mr.Cope.

    • Sam Seed, I myself would rather correct false information or plain lies than leave them standing for some unknowing passer-by to believe them.

      A further benefit of responding is demonstrating where your average islamophobe stands in terms of intellect, and that such people are no match to anyone of us.

    • Sam Seed

      Please fellow loonwatchers ignore the pig that you may prosper. Is there really a need to respond to someone with the mental capacity of said animal. Please take note.

    • The irony is lost on you is it Mr Pork…

      As for the Book burning, debatable, the aforementioned library had been burned many many times before and what was left when Umar got there was probably not much, it certainly wasn’t the biggest. Your statement shows a lot of ignorance, one of the most blinding is the fact that the Muslim library in Baghdad *was* the biggest in the world. As for finding knowledge that contradicts the Qu’ran, pray share with us this ‘knowledge’ because, as a Muslim, I am commanded to take all knowledge without prejudice. The only enemy to knowledge are people like you who enforce ignorance on themselves and upon others, using it as a weapon. Ignorance is fine and understandable, we are *all* ignorant of some things, but enforced ignorance is inexcusable.

    • @ Sphinx:Seeking knowledge is mandatory for every Muslim and Muslimah as per Mohammad.You should have qualified that statement that as long as it did not cotradict the Quran.That is what happened in Egypt where you come from,when Umar burnt all the books in Alexandria library-the biggest in the world at that time,which did not agree with the Quran.Book burning is a hobby with Muslims.

    • Porkchops:

      “Knowledge is the worst enemy of ISLAM.”

      Prophet Mohammed (PBUH):

      “Seeking knowledge is mandatory for every Muslim and Muslimah”

    • Porky rambling about lunacy and ignorance. Irony of the highest order.

      Oh and no bacon post without a fact-based trashing:

      Porky:

      “LUNATIC.It is derived from the word LUNAR which means MOON and the Mad people were affected by the appearance of MOON”

      Wikipedia:

      “The word lunatic is borrowed from the Latin “lunacus”, in turns stemming from “luna” (moon), which denotes the traditional link made in folklore between madness and the phases of the moon. This probably refers to the symptoms of cyclic mood disorders such as bipolar disorder or cyclothymia, the symptoms of which may also go through phases. As yet there is no evidence whatsoever for any causal link between phases of the moon and the progression of mood disorder symptoms. Correlation has been observed in distant parts.”

    • The only word which can describe Muslims is :LUNATIC.It is derived from the word LUNAR which means MOON and the Mad people were affected by the appearance of MOON.No wonder you have MOON on evey Mosque which signifies where the Lunatics gather five times a day.The Muslims worship the pagan moon god and the STAR in front signifies MOHANNAD.The star of ISLAM.Ignorance,thy name is Islam.Knowledge is the worst enemy of ISLAM.

    • Don’t get too worried folks, just file Pammy under Future Darwin Award Winners. No one can drive while blogging/texting/podcasting/etc. that much & make it much longer. And that’s just the stuff I’m mentioning. Just have the fun. And cherish the screen captures (ALWAYS KEEP THE SCREEN CAPS!!!).

      Speaking of, I think I snagged that pic there from a vid she did, or did everyone just do that? Do it to Spencer though, throws him into a manic rage. A hilarious manic rage;)

    • Never fear folks, just file Pammy under Future Darwin Award Winners. No one can drive while blogging/texting/podcasting/etc. that much & make it much longer. And that’s just the stuff I’m mentioning. Just have the fun. And cherish the screen captures (ALWAYS KEEP THE SCREEN CAPS!!!).

      Speaking of, I think I snagged that pic there from a vid she did, or did everyone just do that? Do it to Spencer though, throws him into a manic rage. A hilarious manic rage;)

    • Mosizzle

      “I’m afraid ad-hominem attacks are the only way to deal with such garbage.”

      Sourin Mahbub, I still think we should abstain from attacking her weird looks and funny voice because then Islamophobes will accuse us of “ad hominem”. By the way, your description of her as “a grotesque specimen of a failed abortion” was epic.

    • Cynic

      Actually Abdullah, you can’t formally learn about the ‘truth’ of how evil Islam really is…because all of the Universities have been infiltrated and thoroughly dhimmified.

    • Sourin Mahbub

      Pamela Geller’s lunacy may have been overlooked if she was even slightly easy on the eyes. Unfortunately not only is she a vile, despicable woman on the inside, but she is also one grotesque specimen of a failed abortion.

      Now without giving any of her arguments even a sliver of consideration, all I can say to myself is “damn, that is one ugly broad.” Even with all the upgrades to her appearance she is one seriously vomit-inducing primate.

      I’m afraid ad-hominem attacks are the only way to deal with such garbage.

    • thisguy.

      totally unrelated; but evidently she posted a thread in defense of Lt. Michael Behenna, who got 25 years for the murder of an Iraqi, I posted a comment as I was at the same camp with the Law Enforcement element there; and because I strayed away from their party line, and included some facts that they happend to leave out, that made no doubt it was a pre-meditated murder-they hit me with “delete comment”…you know every so often I need to hop on one of their threads thinking well maybe they for once will listen to reason….guess not:)

    • Mosizzle

      I think it’s fair to say that HalalPork got ‘owned’ by the Prophet, peace be upon him.

    • Abdullah

      Why do you have to bring in people’s mothers into the conversation and dishonour them?

      “Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Amr: Allah’s Apostle said. “It is one of the greatest sins that a man should curse his parents.” It was asked (by the people), “O Allah’s Apostle! How does a man curse his parents?” The Prophet said, “‘The man abuses the father of another man and the latter abuses the father of the former and abuses his mother.”

      Oh snap, such violent and terrorist speech from the founder of Islam. It’s clear that all he preached was violence and intolerance

      As for Ms. Geller. I find it sort of silly that apparently anyone can read a copy of a Quran with a really crappy ‘tafsir’ over the weekend and call themselves an ‘expert’. I can honestly say that I have more credentials than most of these people in terms of knowledge. Especially when they have little to no formal Arabic training.

      To give an example: students studying the Aeneid have to take Latin. They may have a translation with them to clarify things, but they HAVE to take Latin. They have 3 semesters of Latin, and then they begin to delve into it. Then they read the Aeneid, and the copies I’ve read have extensive footnotes to explain phrases, places, and people. And then there are other footnotes explaining the environment in which Virgil wrote the Aeneid, the culture of Romans, etc. If I just read the Aeneid’s translation and go into Princeton stating “I read the Aeneid and I am now an expert. Give me a job in your Classic’s Department” they’ll laugh you out. But for some reason, when it comes to Islam, you don’t need much. Biblical scholars aren’t “experts” because they read the Bible, they’ve taken history courses, theology courses, read papers and essays by numerous other theologans (Aquinas, et. al) and have (from my experience) a cursory knowledge of Semitic languages.

      If Islam is so violent, why don’t you study it thoroughly with teachers at an accredited institute so you can learn how evil it really is? Learning more about it from learned scholars shouldn’t change your opinion if it is so evil. Or does that studying get in the way of “make the quick buck, and then fade away”?

    • Mosizzle

      “@ Cynic :You talk about Pamel Geller{Whoah Mosizzle,Stroking her dog in what way?}Let me politely answer you.The same way as your MOTHER stroked her DOG when she conceived you!!!Would you like me to elaborate more for other people ?”

      HalalPork, so you admit she had sexual intercourse with that dog…

      I wasn’t even implying anything sexual, just that she was stroking a dog in the evil woman kinda way or the crazy cat lady from The Simpsons, but thanks for clearing that up, HalalPork.

    • Cynic

      Great gradeschool comeback there Halal Pork, to something that doesn’t even concern you. Touchy much? But seriously, I don’t know how I’ll ever recover from that. Well, at least you confirmed my suspicions lmfao!

    • @ Cynic :You talk about Pamel Geller{Whoah Mosizzle,Stroking her dog in what way?}Let me politely answer you.The same way as your MOTHER stroked her DOG when she conceived you!!!Would you like me to elaborate more for other people ?

  • Cynic

    Whoah Mossizle, stroking her dog in what way

Allen West Defends Selection of Joyce Kaufman

The political insane asylum in this country just gets larger and larger.

Allen West Defends Joyce Kaufman (Via Huffington Post)

Tea Party-backed Congressman-elect Allen West (R-Fla.) broke his silence over a controversial chief of staff pick this weekend, aggressively defending his selection of radio show host Joyce Kaufman despite the fact that the decision failed to come to fruition.

Here’s CNN’s report on their discussion with West:

“I was not hiring a talk radio host; I was hiring a very brilliant political mind, someone that has been in South Florida politics for 20 plus years. But unfortunately the liberal left showed that I guess they are threatened and intimidated by me, and so they went into the attack dog mode, which is something that they did the entire time in our campaign,” West told CNN Sunday in an interview at a downtown hotel where incoming freshmen were gathering for orientation.

Reports by the “attack dog” media turned upnumerous incidents in which Kaufman had spoken with incendiary rhetoric against illegal immigrants and Muslims. Soon after the reports, she turned down West’s chief of staff offer.

According to one such glance back at her past of public speaking, Kaufman reportedly said: “If you commit a crime while you’re here, we should hang you and send your body back to where you came from, and your family should pay for it.”

Oddly enough, West seemed to contend that the examination of Kaufman’s past of extreme speech was a sign that liberals had “issues with racism” against him.

“I think the American people are sick of, and that despicable, disgusting action and the way that they went after Joyce Kaufman shows that not only this liberal left has some issues with racism,” West told CNN. “I guarantee you, if I was a black Democratic Congressman-elect, they would not be doing these type of actions, and the fact that they’re attacking a woman like this, that shows me something about sexism and misogynist behavior.”

Kaufman reportedly addressed the incident herself over the weekend, as well. This from theBroward Palm Beach New Times.

“This is not about me,” she said of the threats. “This is the first attack on this man [Allen West].” She called the incident, “an attempt to try to make us look bad,” adding, “We didn’t fall into the trap!” She said she is remembering the individuals who have “demonized” her in the last few days, the columnists, the bloggers, and that she will call them out by name soon. She said she’s already received an offer to write a book about her ordeal.

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    • It’s rather amazing to see the West/Kaufman propaganda play out. Kaufman advocates lynching people en mass and when criticized for it claims that the verbal disagreements constitute a form of lynching against her. West takes an issue where there’s zero aspect of race and “plays the race card.”

      West is right about one point. If he were a liberal Democrat he would not be criticized for picking Kaufman … because as a liberal Democrat he would never have picked her.

    • Mosizzle

      I was talking to Eternel.

    • Mosizzle

      He wasn’t called a monkey for being black but for his loony views. Therefore, you must be racist to assume that “monkey” must mean “black person”.

    • Khushboo

      calling a black man “monkey” is racist people. Be careful!

    • Eternel

      “This will be a hilarious couple of years with this paranoid monkey” A black man disliking islam is a monkey but a black muslim man is a brother, isn’t he ?

  • I know Justin, but it’s best not to leave them unchallenged so they can’t run to their little friends and ‘prove’ how right they are

“Facts, Schmacts!”: Michael Medved on Islam

In his latest, as of this writing, blog post on his “Police Blotter,” Robert Spencer highlights a piece by Michael Medved entitled, “Disapproval of Islam is No Indication of Bigotry.” Medved writes:

The real question raised by all such expressions of public opinion should confront the nearly 40% of Americans who say they feel positively impressed by Islam and its influence.

What aspect of Muslim teaching and achievement most inspires such respondents? The daily reports of suicidal violence from every corner of the globe, with fellow-Muslims (invariably) as the primary victims? Or the well-known association of Islamic piety with open-hearted respect for the rights of women, homosexuals and infidels? Or is it the sterling record of economic progress, cutting age technology and social justice achieved by precisely those societies (like Saudi Arabia, Iran or Afghanistan) that take Shariah law most seriously? Or would Islam’s American admirers cite the record of Muslim charities in the U.S., the most prominent of which (remember the Holy Land Foundation?) have been shut down by the government for their lavish support of murderous terrorist groups like Hamas?

Quite naturally, the people who look favorably on Islam feel unconcerned over its ancient teachings or loathsome perversions in benighted corners of the globe, and focus instead on the law-abiding, patriotic, family-loving Muslims who have established benign communities throughout the United States. But even the decent people who reside in those communities rightly worry that their impressionable off-spring may become too religious, too zealous in their fervent commitment to The Prophet and his teachings.

Notice how, in a few short paragraphs, Medved cites such things as suicide terrorists, countries like Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Afghanistan, and Islam’s “ancient teachings” and infers that, therefore, Islam itself is bad.

Funny how Medved doesn’t mention all those “ancient teachings” of the Bible that demand stoning to death? Or, the fact that suicide terrorism is not a uniquely Islamic phenomenon? Moreover, Medved says:

There is no real parallel to this fear in Christian or Jewish homes. Christian parents may feel embarrassed by their religiously reborn children suddenly studying the Gospels obsessively, or witnessing obnoxiously to family or friends, but they needn’t worry about wayward kids blowing up themselves or others in the name of Jesus.

Really? What about the “Christian Bin Laden” who was arrested for plotting to blow up a women’s clinic? Or Timothy McVeigh? He was a known Christian. What about the Lord’s Resistance Army? Oh, but these are not Muslims, so they don’t count.

Medved goes on:

Jewish mothers and fathers may hate the scraggly beards and black hats adopted by a suddenly Orthodox generation, or resent the refusal to eat non-kosher food at home, but even the most fanatical of their kids feel scant temptation to travel to remote mountain hideouts as part of an international terror conspiracy.

Wow. Then, Mr. Medved must not have heard about the recent book Jewish Terrorism in Israel, written by two Israeli scholars, that documents Jewish terrorist activity dating from before the creation of the Jewish State. This is from the conclusion of the book:

It is true that radical Islamists to a certain extent justify their terrorism with their aspiration to help the Palestinian nation realize its nationalist goals and by claiming they are responding to the ongoing harm to Palestinians. However, even a movement such as Fatah, all the more so Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, and al-Qaeda, openly declare that they will not rest until the complete liberation of the Al-Aqsa Mosque is achieved [the Al-Aqsa Mosque is located on the same site in Old Jerusalem as the Temple Mount, the holiest site in Judaism].

On the other hand, although in much smaller numbers, there are Jews who regard the very presence of the mosques as an obstacle to the redemption of the people of Israel. A larger number hold a Kahanist worldview, according to which—irrespective of the conflict with the Palestinians—the Jewish state should cast out the Arab minority from within. Some of them are willing to try to implement this goal in a violent way or by means designed to bring about a violent escalation in the relations between Jews and Arabs.

Again, they don’t talk about Muslims, so it doesn’t count. Medved also failed to mention the comments of Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, the head of Shas’s Council of Torah Sages and a senior Sephardi adjudicator, who said that Gentiles are meant to serve Jews:

“Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel,” he said in his weekly Saturday night sermon on the laws regarding the actions non-Jews are permitted to perform on Shabbat.

In Israel, death has no dominion over them… With gentiles, it will be like any person – they need to die, but [God] will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money.

This is his servant… That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew,” Yosef said.

“Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat.

That is why gentiles were created,” he added.

You remember Rabbi Yosef…he called for a plague on the Palestinian people. Isn’t that, like, genocide?

But, wait! Medved exposes more of his worldview:

The spiritual leader of the proposed Islamic Cultural Center near Ground Zero insists that the true problem is extremism, not Islam itself. “The real battlefront today is not between Muslims and non-Muslims,” declared Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf to the Council on Foreign Relations, “but between moderates of all faith traditions against the extremists of all faith traditions.”

This ignores the huge differences –both quantitative (Islamic radicals are vastly more numerous) and qualitative (Muslim fanatics endorse uniquely murderous rhetoric and deeds) – between extremists in one faith tradition and all others.

A Christian fundamentalist may talk about burning Korans; Muslim crazies regularly burn buildings- and people. Even after Pastor Terry Jones called off his idiotic barbeque of the Islamic holy book, Muslims reacted with deadly riots in Kashmir that killed 16 and wounded sixty, while burning several schools and other government buildings.

Some Americans may dislike the style of worship in Pentecostal or Catholic churches, but the faithful (no matter how tackily dressed) never surge out of their sanctuaries on Sundays with fury and blood-lust, looking for non-believers to stone and property to destroy. Every Friday, however, somewhere in the vast Muslim world, some congregations of the devout react to their uplifting prayer services by going directly from their mosques to rousing orgies of rage and violence.

This last statement is an over-reaching exaggeration at best. And, once again, Medved says these things while seeming to ignore all the atrocities committed by Christians and Jews in the name of their religion. It is all documented on the website: www.whatiftheyweremuslim.com. It goes to show that extremists are all the same – namely, extreme – and come from all walks of spiritual life.

But, that doesn’t fit into the neat little world of people like “Scholar” Robert Spencer and Michael Medved, and so they ingore the facts and continue on with their assertions about Islam.

Medved concludes:

This observation isn’t an expression of bigotry; it’s a factual product of reading the newspaper, and regularly monitoring international news. The lame-brained insistence that all faith traditions deserve equal respect (or equal condemnation) doesn’t demonstrate tolerance or broad-mindedness; it expresses, rather, a refusal to take any religion seriously enough for honest evaluation of its virtues and flaws.

Reservations about Islam, and even fears of the Muslim faith’s influence on the world at large, don’t constitute paranoia or intolerance. These concerns represent an honest and reasonable response on the part of a significant segment of the public to a serious global challenge to the values that Americans hold most dear.

No, Mr. Medved, your “observation” is nothing more than a repeating of the Muslim “Police Blotter,” citing the crimes of those who are Muslim and then projecting their criminality to all of Islam. It is as unfair as judging a town by its own police blotter. Now, I’m not saying that Mr. Medved is a bigot because he, obviously, has a negative view of Islam. I am only showing that the facts are not on his side.

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    • art

      @JihadBob

      Hey, every1, christians and jews in Europe dont need to organize underground military ogr because THE SECULAR ARMIES OF THEIR COUNTRIES DO THE JOB FOR THEM, American state supports Israel with weapons and technology, american troops go to kill muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan, Russian army goes to fight in Chechnya, Arab states around Israel protect its borders;

      If Muslim States obeyed muslim voice, there wouldnt be occupide Palestine today, ther wouldnt be Mubaraks, or Saudis of todays ruling them, —Thats why muslims organize themselves !!!

    • Garo

      Anyone who is interested in visiting Israel can do so by joining Michael Medved and his wife in their GROUP YEARLY tour of their beloved Israel!!

      When he invites people,on his Radio-Talk-Show,to join him in such a tour to Israel,he sounds like a true believer in the “virtues?” of his beloved Israel.

      But,for a critical listener like myself,Michael Medved sounds nothing more than a cheap propagandist for a foreign power.Period.

    • Garo

      Michael Medved is nothing more than a hard core Zionist who would not miss an opportunity that would come in his way to demonize Islam. I listen to his Radio-Talk-Show almost daily,just to see how far he can go in his silly prejudice against Islam.

      Hizbullah and Hamas drive him crazy. And as a result,he bombards his listeners with a parade of incoherent,contradictary and irrational views about Islam,especially about the Shari’a law.

      He has never missed a chance not to bring the suicide bombers in his rants,as Islam/Shari’a laws is the topic of the dialogue with his listeners.

    • Hmmm… since my image didn’t post, follow this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_majority_countries.

      Yes, it is wikipedia, but it includes a map by percentage, along with a list of Muslim-majority countries, their populations, the percentage practicing Islam, the dominant sect and school of jurisprudence, the legal status of Islam, the national GDP, and the type of government. I know you probably won’t read it, but its rather educational.

    • Hahaha, wow. It looks like Cheryl (or Miss Manners, or wanna-be Pam Geller, or post-op jihad robbie… I can’t tell them apart these days) is really on a roll here. It’s hilarious.

      You claim that Islam isn’t a religion and that there’s no such such as ‘anti-Islam,’ yet you don’t even see your own bigotry as you spew this crap. I can only imagine that you aren’t very well traveled and have never met or known a Muslim in person, so what gives? Where does all this blind hatred come from, because it seems FAR too passionate for someone with no personal involvement.

      Where to start? Okay… lets start with the fact that you paint all Muslims with the same broad brush. You DO know how big the Muslim world is, right? All of those countries could be considered ‘Muslim majority,’ and many are not ‘Arab’ or in the ‘Middle East’ either. Uzbekistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Nigeria, Mali, Senegal, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Kosovo, the Maldives, Turkmenistan, Turkey, Kyrgyzstan, Chad, Niger….

      So how are we all part of some HUGE political movement when we live in different countries, speak different languages, and believe in different things? Do we Shi’a ‘belong to the same political conspiracy’ as Sunnis, because if we do that’s news to me! I guess I should expect to see more people mourning during Achoura and putting up pictures of the Imams in their homes. Considering there are only a couple of Shi’a masjid in my immediate area, that’ll be good news for me!

      And how many masjid preach ‘anti-America’ stuff? The ones I go to are mostly apolitical, and I know of a Sunni mosque in my area that is actually pretty conservative. Sure, I know some fellow Muslims who criticize America, but then I also know lots of non-Muslims who do. I think that there are plenty of things to criticize about our government… MY government, in fact. Foreign policy would certainly be one them, but the growing influence of the evangelical minority would be another one.

      Yes, I think that we have far, far more to fear from you than the other way around. You are the one posting your fantasies about the American people ‘rising up’ and carrying out genocide against fellow Americans! I’m not making this up or exaggerating. I can see the posts RIGHT HERE with my very own eyes! So you apparently don’t believe in freedom of religion, or rather, you believe in freedom for people to believe exactly as you do… or else.

      I’m going to guess that you aren’t much for gay rights either? Or equality for men and women? Or even multi-culturalism and tolerance between races? And to think we Muslims are called bigoted. The fact is, you fantasy about a non-existent past where America was ‘white’ and ‘Christian’ and we minorities were kept out of sight and out of power. The scary thing is that you evangelicals have the motivation, desire and even ability to seize power in this country, despite being a relatively small minority yourself. It’s just that politicians are more than willing to court evangelicals and baptists…

      Anyway, I am a Muslim. I am proud to be a Muslim, and will cling to my beliefs because I WANT to. I believe in Islam, as it was passed down by the Ahl al-Bay’t. I am more than happy to elucidate my philosophy too. Why should I be afraid or try and please people who hate me anyway? I’m not trying to earn your approval, and you have NOTHING that I want or need.

    • NassirH

      Surprising.

      JihadBob has been reduced to making more childish comments.

    • Syed

      JihadBob said, “Please, make that mean, wild-eyed, blood thirsty Christian bigot go away!”

      Amen to that!

    • JihadBob

      Translation: “Mommy, mean Christian JihadBob is terrorizing us innocent Muslims with his arguments. Please, make that mean, wild-eyed, blood thirsty Christian bigot go away!”

    • NassirH

      Your above comments are a perfect example of your dishonesty. I made my point and you proved it.

      Game. Set. Match.

      Anyways, thanks for at least admitting you’re a liar.

      * insulting remark

      Easy there. You’re not helping you’re argument when you’re proving me right consistently.

    • JihadBob

      * insulting remark

    • JihadBob

      That’s because you, like most Muslims, are supporters of Islamo-fascism.

      That’s where my definition of Islamo-fascism includes curbing free speech.

      I really don’t think any Islamo-fascist would take such a comment negatively.

      But try it for yourself, will a Klan member mind it you call them a racist?

      The last two ‘quotes’ are taken out of context. My response to Zakariya was a typo – I went on to clarify that I mean emerge, not submerge from his cesspool.

      Submerge doesn’t even make sense.

      Pointing out that Danios operates a well oiled and obviously well funded site does not seem to have been an insulting compliment to me – only if you think taking money from shady players is an insult, I suppose.

      They think suicide bombing is okay

      So does Qaradawi.

      Neither al-Qaeda nor Qaradawi view martyrdom operations as acts of suicide.

      I agree with them, and it’s besides the point, the Koran says in more than one verse that Muslims who die fighting for Allah will be rewarded with Paradise.

      It’s not my fault that these verses are logical inconsistencies with other passages in the Koran and hadith.

      Sorry, just wrong, why do you think so many Muslims speak out against them and disagree with them?

      Because they’ve recently managed to kill tens of thousands of Muslims in the past few years???

    • Sorry, is he *still* arguing that Al-Queda share stuff? Oh dear…

      Yes Bob, they share stuff like they pray fast and so on, correct. That’s it though, they stray massively on the other stuff.

      “Guessing that the Jihadist discourse has monopolized and dominated any other opposing viewpoints in the Muslim world, I’m going to guess their argument and logic is much more solid than the members here would like to admit in front of the Kuffar.”

      Sorry, just wrong, why do you think so many Muslims speak out against them and disagree with them? I’ve never met a single Muslim who agrees with them, not one and I get around a lot. Not that you’d know, having never spoken to us… If you want a nice long detailed look into it, I recommend this Fatwa:

      http://www.minhajbooks.com/english/bookid/376/Fatwa:-Suicide-Bombing-and-Terrorism-by-Shaykh-ul-Islam-Dr-Muhammad-Tahir-ul-Qadri.html

      And Mosizzle has repeatedly hit the nail on the head regarding your ’cause’… as has been stated to you many times, if you really care etc then why do you continue to alienate your greatest allies, i.e. the majority of Muslims? It really brings into doubt your true aims, I think we all know what they *really* are…

    • Khushboo

      *reads Nassir’s comment* Oh Bob, I believe you just got owned!

    • Khushboo

      You don’t think comparing Al Qaeda with mainstream Islam (meaning us followers) is insulting? They might be Muslim but most of us certainly don’t agree with their views and it’s certainly not Islamic. They think suicide bombing is okay, there will be 72 virgins in heaven which I have yet to find in the Quran, and killing of innocents is okay when it’s really a sin.

      Book 23 vol. 2 #446: The Prophet said, “He who commits suicide by throttling shall keep on throttling himself in the Hellfire (forever)”

      An-Nisa 4:29 And do not kill yourselves (nor kill one another) Surely Allah (swt) is most merciful.

    • NassirH

      Please quote my comment where you think I insulted a single individual.

      Sure.

      That’s because you, like most Muslims, are supporters of Islamo-fascism.

      I was kind of half expecting for Zakariya to submerge from the cesspool he resides in and respond to my comments directed to him.

      Surely not idiots like Danios and the rest of the morons at his well funded site ?

      LoL

      What a shameless liar. I can bring some more quotes if you like kind JihadBob.

    • JihadBob

      but Bob, is Al Quaeda really going by the Quran?

      They are offering their own interpretation of the texts and teachings of Islam.

      You’ll have to ask Jihadists how they are justifying their violence.

      Guessing that the Jihadist discourse has monopolized and dominated any other opposing viewpoints in the Muslim world, I’m going to guess their argument and logic is much more solid than the members here would like to admit in front of the Kuffar.

      I frankly don’t care if you insult terrorists but please,enough of insulting our religion and the majority of the good moderate Muslims. Peace!

      I haven’t insulted anyone, including ‘terrorists’ and Saladin, etc.

      Please quote my comment where you think I insulted a single individual.

    • Khushboo

      but Bob, is Al Quaeda really going by the Quran? Killing of innocents is a sin and I know I’m not the first one telling you this. I’m sure You’ve heard all the explanations before. I’m kinda new here so I guess I still have a little patience left but please don’t push it. I frankly don’t care if you insult terrorists but please,enough of insulting our religion and the majority of the good moderate Muslims. Peace!

    • Mosizzle

      Truly lame. One question for Jihadbob. I assume your aim with all this Islamophobia is to eliminate jihad/terrorism so does saying that terrorism is an essential part of Islam make Muslims more or less likely to take part in terrorism.

      Jihadwatch basically is defeating all the moderate Muslims that are painstakingly trying to convince young Muslims that they should be good members of society rather than terrorists. But all that spencer does is accuse them of lying and makes sure that young Muslims get the opposite message. Wouldn’t it actualy help your cause if you said that terrorism was forbidden by Islam (which it is) so that everyone could get along? This proves that Spencer does not care about the welfare of humanity but is trying to defeat Islam by making it seem impossible to reform and then he can spread his extreme intpretationf of Catholicism.

Newsweek: “Stealth Jihad” is Paranoid Speak

  Robert Spencer popularized the term “Stealth Jihad,” and some in the Conservative wing such as Newt Gingrich have ran with it and are using it all the time. As has been exposed on Loonwatch and other sites, “Stealth Jihad” is paranoid speak and just another anti-Muslim conspiracy theory. Lisa Miller takes on this term in her recent article which no doubt will have Spencer, whose site is described as “a hyperventilating anti-terror blog,” in fits.

The Misinformants

By Lisa Miller Here is the latest semantic assault from the party that brought you “Islamo-facism” (circa 2005) and “Axis of Evil” (2002). The term “stealth jihad” is suddenly voguish among politically ambitious right wingers who see President Obama’s approach to terrorism as insufficient. If it sounds like a phrase from a military-fantasy summer blockbuster, that’s on purpose: in its cartoonish bad-guy foreignness, “stealth jihad” attempts to make the terrorist threat broader and thus more nefarious than it already is. The only thing scarier than an invisible, homicidal, suicidal enemy with a taste for world domination is one who’s sneaking up on you. In the words of former speaker of the House Newt Gingrich at a July speech at the American Enterprise Institute, “stealth jihad” is an effort “to replace Western civilization with a radical imposition of Sharia.” The term wasn’t Gingrich’s invention. It’s the title of a two-year-old book by Robert Spencer, whose hyperventilating antiterror blog, Jihad Watch, is cited and circulated widely on the far right. But the recent vicious debate over the proposed community center and mosque near Ground Zero gives Gingrich an excuse to use “stealth jihad” and its variants frequently—not just at the AEI but in an interview with this magazine. (In an essay on the conservative Web site Human Events, he referred instead to “creeping sharia.”) Gingrich’s like-minded peers have seized on the language, too. “Muslim Brotherhood operatives, like [Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, the center’s founder and leader] are extremely skilled at obscuring … their true agenda,” said Frank Gaffney, founder of the Center for Security Policy, on FOX’s Glenn Beck show. “It’s part of the stealth jihad.” ‘A Little Intolerant, But Good Reason To Be’ Protesters for and against the building of a Muslim community center near Ground Zero talk about their reasons for supporting or opposing the project. Words matter, and if you say them often enough and with enough authority, they start to sound true—even if they’re not. Abdul Rauf, for instance, has no affiliation with the Muslim Brotherhood and is an “operative” (another nefarious word) only in the sense that running a small, progressive interfaith nonprofit is an “operation.” As for his “stealth jihad,” it’s virtually impossible to imagine how such an event would—logistically—occur. Would the construction of an Islamic prayer site near Ground Zero inevitably lead American women to wake up one morning and find themselves veiled and confined to their homes? “The term is ever-so-slightly goofy,” says Geoffrey Nunberg, a linguist at the University of California, Berkeley. The paranoia conveyed by “stealth jihad” brings to mind the anticommunist campaigns of Sen. Joseph McCarthy in the 1950s, Nunberg adds. Just as McCarthyites imagined a communist behind every lamppost, the word “stealth” conflates all Muslims with terrorists. In a stealth campaign you never know who your friends are. Also, simply put, foreign words freak people out. “Jihad” and “Sharia” reinforce the sense among Americans that Muslims in general have an unfathomable world view. During World War II, formerly obscure words like “hara-kiri” and “kamikaze,” which suggested the “warlike ferocity” of the Japanese, became common parlance, Nunberg says. “There was this sense of being confronted with this hostile, alien culture.” The Japanese were “literally demonized,” he says. Gingrich has already used the mosque debate to evoke many of America’s historic enemies, comparing Muslims indirectly with Nazis and communists and even the Japanese. “We would never accept the Japanese putting up a site next to Pearl Harbor,” he said on FOX recently. But that is not true. Fourteen percent of Hawaiians call themselves ethnically Japanese, according to the U.S. Census, and dozens of Japanese temples stand near Pearl Harbor—as they have for decades. One of them, the Buddhist Aiea Hongwanji Mission, is less than half a mile away. “You can see Pearl Harbor from the roof, maybe. We’re really close,” says Wade Yamamoto, the temple’s treasurer. The temple allows people “to practice their religion from back home,” he says. Gingrich, a historian, might take a lesson here. After the attacks of Dec. 7, 1941, more than 100,000 people of Japanese descent—two thirds of them American citizens—were interned in camps in a shameful episode that later legislation called the result of “race prejudice, war hysteria, and a failure of political leadership.” Last week, a New York City cab driver was stabbed for answering the question “Are you a Muslim?” in the affirmative. Our enemies are dangerous. Let’s be clear about who they are. With Johannah Cornblatt  

Robert Spencer Watch: Elena Kagan Ignorantly Promoting Shariah Law

Robert Spencer next to his Perpetual Serf Pamela Geller

Robert Spencer contradicts himself once again. In a recent article in the Daily Caller, Spencer is quoted as saying,

“[Kagan] would knowingly and wittingly abet the advance of Sharia, but she wouldn’t do it understanding anything about Sharia. She would do it out of her ignorance.”

Yes, because the only one who understands Sharia is Robert Spencer.

What a convoluted way of saying what he really wants to say, “Kagan will ‘advance Shariah.’”

So will she “knowingly” or “ignorantly” advance Sharia?

Spencer attributes Kagan’s fondness for Sharia to naïveté and liberalism. “There is a general tendency on the part of political liberals in the United States today to take a benign view of Islam and Islamic law,” he said. “They are generally uninformed and share a hatred of the West and Western civilization.”

Essentially, if someone disagrees with Spencer they are cast as either “ignorant” or “taking a benign view of Islam and Islamic law.” This woman has devoted her whole life to the study of law, does he not think for a second that Kagan might know more about Islamic law than himself?

Spencer’s wild-eyed conspiracy theories are then exposed,
According to Spencer, Kagan will be a willing accomplice in the ongoing stealth jihad — or the institution of Sharia into non-Muslim societies via non-violent means, such as the courts and mainstreaming Islamic customs — currently underway against the West. “The goal of the jihad is to assert the primacy of Islamic law over non-Muslim society and over Muslim societies where it is not fully enforced, and that can take place either through violent or non-violent means and the goal is the same,” he said.
More of the same old conspiracies. On Spencer’s hate blog, he posted this article with the comment, “Ignorance and naivete, mixed in with the fashionable Leftist contempt for America.” Is he referring to the reporter or to Kagan? He doesn’t dispute anything the reporter wrote and instead finds it fit to criticize liberals as being “accomplices in the ongoing stealth jihad.”

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    • Art K

      I am absolutely amazed at how people are still struggling to dominate the world with their religion. I think, in this “Electronic Age” that people are learning how to articulate their feelings in a discrete manner. Yes, there are those that are young and ignorant that choose to exercise their “Right of Free Speech” as given to Americans through the Constitution. They fail to realize that it does not mean to go around and deliberately hurt others with your wicked and sharp tongue. People lapse into deep depression until they die once the verbal damage is done. You cannot undo the hurt once it is accepted by the hurt person. How do you punish the perpetrator for hurting his family, friend or some person on the street? You can’t punish him because of his ignorance of human kindness and care for his fellow man. At one point or another, we must all learn to put our egos aside and embrace one another as loving family members. I happen to have a vast education in “religion” and it does not mean a thing because many people use their religion to cause separation and rejection in our human society. This is a joke being played on us by us, the people aka human beings! The young people today that are rude and arrogant are the by-product of parents that were polite and never said what they felt in a constructive open way. It is too bad. It is my wish that all wars end. It is my wish that all arguments do not occur. It is my wish that all people, civilized or not, learn to reason and think about the impact they have on the life of this planet. We have the resources to care for this beautiful planet and many people beyond eight billion. But, we must first get greed and jealousy out of our lives once and for all. We all have gifts for one another and when given to the world, amazing feelings of love abound. I am happy to be a human. I am happy to know many people that are considerate and caring for others. Religion, Race, Culture and Political persuasion are not the pillars of a society that can survive beyond 2025. True love has the power to crush all pain. True love is the healer of this world and our hurt hearts. Killing is not the key to stopping hatred. It is the hatred in our hearts that must be crushed. Hatred is the achilles heel of a collapsing world. Let 2010 celebrate the rise of the intelligent minds of all human beings hungering for a more sustainable non-coercive society. Love to you all, Art K

    • Sam Seed

      “Adm_Akbar00 Says: August 5th, 2010 at 1:14 pm May Allah fart on Pamela Gellar’s sandwich”

      Please refrain from using foul attributes for Allah, it’s not funny or clever.

    • Abdul Fateh

      I don’t understand how Spencer is still taken seriously. This is a man who was a Catholic school teacher in the Bronx for a while, and now he’s some self-appointed expert on Sharia. He should stick to talking to underage girls about “spiritual virginity.” What a guy. He’s plenty dumb too, one shouldn’t throw bricks when in a glass house. The same goes for Pamela Geller-Oshry, the 52-year old harpy residing on East 56th St in Manhattan in her apartment paid for by her criminal ex-husband.

    • Terry

      Robert Spencer is plain and simple a sewage rat. The only reason this individual without any character is doing this is money. There’s still a lot of money to be made after 9/11 for those who want to smear Islam and arabs. It also fits well into the Zionist agenda of dehumanizing the Palestinians in order to grab more land illegally and ethnically cleanse Palestinians.

    • mindy1

      i may not agree with Kagan, but Spencer is starting to sound paranoid

    • What do these half-wits know about Shariah anyway? In Al Azhar University in Egypt, it takes at least 4 years to get a basic degree in Shariah Law studies (A couple of years longer if you want a Master’s degree). There is no way Spencer’s highly selective “research” is any match

      As for the Shrieking Harpy, before she figures out the difference between Al Azhar and Cairo University (No, Pamela, it was not Al Azhar Obama gave his speech at), she has no business being considered an expert about anything.

    • Justin

      Mwu ha ha ha! First the ground zero mosque, then overthrow the Consistution! It is all going according to plan… (sarcasm intended)

    • Adm_Akbar00

      May Allah fart on Pamela Gellar’s sandwich

    • KnowingTheTruth

      I’m starting to think that these two fools ether have brain damage or lying is the only way to make money to support their mansions. You know what it’s both.

Anti-Mosque Protester To TPM: Muslims Hate Dogs And America Too

Anti-Mosque Protester To TPM: Muslims Hate Dogs And America Too

Let’s get one thing straight, Diane Serafin told me this afternoon — the people (and their dogs) protesting a planned mosque in Temecula, California tomorrow are not bigots. It’s not Muslims per se that they have a problem with — it’s the fact that Imams are slowly infiltrating American society, hoping to force Sharia law on us all.

Muslim construction projects have been the subject of public protests nationwide these days (as we’ve reported), but Serafin’s demonstration is different from all the rest. She’s calling on people to bring their dogs and join in song tomorrow afternoon because, she told me, Muslims just hate dogs and songs. Of course, Muslim antipathy toward canines isn’t their worst offense, she told me.

“They hate Jews, they hate Chrisitans, they hate women, they hate dogs,” Serafin said. “[The idea of the new mosque] scares the daylights out of me.”

Still, Serafin insisted she’s no bigot.

“I want you to stress this — I’m not prejudiced,” Serafin told me. “I worked retail for nine years and I didn’t even know my manager was gay until someone told me. And when I found out, I didn’t care.”

Serafin is a tea party organizer in Murrieta, California — and the woman who’s helping to spread the word about tomorrow’s protest, which she says will see Christians gather outside a mosque in the Riverside County area. (The Muslims who worship at that site have been planning to build a new mosque and community center in Temecula since 2000.) Serafin runs an area tea party website, which she told me she’s used to help spread the word about tomorrow’s demonstration.

Here’s what’s really behind the Temecula mosque according to Serafin: America-hating imams are planning to build mosques “in every Christian city” so they can influence local politics, undermine our legal system and impose Sharia law on us all.

Serafin said when I asked why local officials in Temecula haven’t put the brakes on this nefarious plot by shutting down construction plans at the mosque.

“They feel there’s religious freedom,” she said. “And I know it’s there in the Constitution and everything, but everything I read says Islam is a political movement.”

“I think there’s a movement going on in the United States to take over our country,” she added.

With the government not lending a hand, Serafin says that it’s up to protesters like her to step up. Step up and sing. Step up and sing with their dogs nearby.

“It’s a dream,” she said when I asked about her confidence that the increasing numbers of protests against the mosque will work and shut down the project. “I don’t know that we can do it, but if we can make people aware maybe we can slow down this movement of Islam into the country.”

Serafin said she can’t predict how many people are going to make it to the protest, but knows what will happen when it starts.

“They hate song,” she said of Muslims. “So we’re going to sing patriotic songs, Christian songs.

God Bless America will be one,” Serafin added.

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    • trailer park don’t lie

      Not all muslims hate dogs obviously, but it rolls of the tongue easier than 98.2% of muslims hate dogs…. Face facts, the reason muslims have left their countries is because they are backward and oppressive, so why bring those attitudes to the west?

      Bring enlightenment, not ignorance or you will be resisted.. Religions are mainly just an excuse for narrowmindedness… Freedom means for all, not just you…

    • Nina

      LOL? What an ignorant idiot. She seems to think that all muslims are like Taliban or something.

  • Dr. Z

    I laughed out loud while reading the article

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