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French Minister Compares Muslim Women Who Wear Hijab To “Slaves”

By on April 2, 2016 in Loon-at-large

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Oh, I wonder why Muslims feel alienated in France? France, continues to astound with outdoing its own racism and hate, especially of its Arab and Muslim populations.

By the way this is their minister for women’s rights.:

via. AlJazeera English

France’s minister for women’s rights has compared Muslim women who wear the veil to American “Negroes” who accepted slavery, in an interview with French media.

Laurence Rossignol made the comments to RMC radio and BFM TV, igniting accusations of racism on Wednesday across social media as a petition was launchedcalling on the minister to resign.

In just a few hours, the petition gathered more than 10,000 signatures.

Rossignol was a guest on a programme to discuss the Islamic fashion industry. She later said the use of the word Negro had been made in error, but stopped short of retracting the remark.

Many on social media pointed out that Rossignol previously founded an anti-racist coalition, SOS Racisme.

France has the largest Muslim minority in Europe and some of the continent’s most restrictive laws about expressions of faith in public. The veil was banned in 2011.

Elsewhere in the interview, the minister reportedly criticised those who made fashion items such as the so-called burqini, a modest swimsuit covering the head, arms and legs, as “irresponsible”.

Today, according to the  2015-2016 State of the Global Islamic Economy Report,Muslim consumers spend an estimated $230bn on clothing, a number that is projected to grow to  $327bn by 2019 – larger than the current combined clothing markets of the UK ($107bn), Germany ($99bn), and India ($96bn).

Earlier this year, the Italian fashion house Dolce & Gabbana unveiled a new abaya and hijab collection aimed at Muslim women.

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    • George Carty

      I think that the “four witnesses for rape thing” is from the Pakistani Hudood Ordinances, which are a kind of peversion of Islamic law.

    • Yausari

      Yeah, what they said and also ‘requires’ to marry four? Maybe you should consider studying what the condition is in the Quran, and it clearly states “otherwise marry one”

    • Awesome

      Except that Muslim men treat their women like slaves and Islamic law requires 4 male witnesses to prove a rape

      Which, in addition to being Islamically and factually incorrect, also has nothing to do with clothing.

    • cmyfe .

      Still good. I wanted to learn micro biology…. ended up in the financial sector.

    • Reynardine

      When I was twelve, I wanted to be both an archaeologist and a vetrinarian; I became, instead, a student of literature and a lawyer.

    • George Carty

      Hasn’t France integrated non-Muslim former colonial subjects far more effectively than its Muslim ones though?

    • AJ

      Even though feminists decry misogyny but then I see quite a few promoting things, including what promotes sexual objectification of women, which primarily caters to men. Sort of a hypocrisy, I say.

    • cmyfe .

      I suppose it does represent a balanced approach based on the culture you live in but it definitely is not the most common one.

      What are the aspirations of an average 12-21 year old girl? What is available in the market and being promoted for her?

      I’m not the type of a person who would ask someone to wear what I want because I don’t have time to think of others in that way but I reject the idea that if a Muslim woman covers herself she is held back or that she becomes a slave.

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In Syria, militias armed by the Pentagon fight those armed by the CIA

By on March 31, 2016 in General

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Do we ever get tired of “unintended conflict?”

via. LA Times

Syrian militias armed by different parts of the U.S. war machine have begun to fight each other on the plains between the besieged city of Aleppo and the Turkish border, highlighting how little control U.S. intelligence officers and military planners have over the groups they have financed and trained in the bitter five-year-old civil war.

The fighting has intensified over the last two months, as CIA-armed units and Pentagon-armed ones have repeatedly shot at each other while maneuvering through contested territory on the northern outskirts of Aleppo, U.S. officials and rebel leaders have confirmed.

In mid-February, a CIA-armed militia called Fursan al Haq, or Knights of Righteousness, was run out of the town of Marea, about 20 miles north of Aleppo, by Pentagon-backed Syrian Democratic Forces moving in from Kurdish-controlled areas to the east.

“Any faction that attacks us, regardless from where it gets its support, we will fight it,” Maj. Fares Bayoush, a leader of Fursan al Haq, said in an interview.

Rebel fighters described similar clashes in the town of Azaz, a key transit point for fighters and supplies between Aleppo and the Turkish border, and on March 3 in the Aleppo neighborhood of Sheikh Maqsud.

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    • Amie

      Well of course. It is ancient tactic that works so well all the time: divide and conquer. How else are the CIA and the Pentagon going to win?

    • JD

      but but but Religion is the cause of all Terrorism.. 30 + years Wars around the world , Spreading Democracy, and helping our buddy Saudi and the ASSad has nothing to do with it

  • The greenmantle

    Another win win war for the indusrial military congressional complex

Muslim Woman Allegedly Slashed In The Face By White Male, Called “Terrorist” [Updated]

By on March 31, 2016 in Loon Violence, Loon-at-large

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[Update: Woman admits she lied about being slashed in face, called ‘terrorist’ in lower Manhattan (h/t:Sam Seed). “It’s disgusting that she lied about it. Apologies to our readers.”]

Is this going to be the new normal in Trump’s America? Oh, and the police are not investigating this as a hate crime.

via. NYDailyNews

A Muslim woman walking down a Manhattan street during Thursday’s rush hour was slashed in the face by a man who called her a “terrorist,” police said.

The 20-year-old woman, a student at the private postsecondary school Make-up Designory, was taken to Bellevue Hospital with non-life threatening injuries, police said. The attack left a two-inch laceration on the left side of her face, police told CBS New York.

Police sources describe him as a white man wearing a black hat and a black jacket. He came up behind her, slashed a roughly two-inch gouge into her cheek, and ran off, police sources said.

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  • Alyeth

    That’s the exact same thing I was thinking about to comment

Creepy Sam Harris Loses Debate Then Refuses To Air It

By on March 10, 2016 in Feature

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There’s a debate that Sam Harris doesn’t want published even though he’s the one who asked for it in the first place. His excuse is that it was extremely “boring” and that his nerdy sycophants, who have better things to do wouldn’t want to waste their time listening to it.

Apparently, writer and Yale Law School student, Omer Aziz, wiped the floor with him. (h/t: Tanveer)

via. Salon

Last December, I published an essay in Salon reviewing “Islam and the Future of Tolerance,” a book-length “discourse” on reforming Islam, conducted between neuroscientist Sam Harris and activist Maajid Nawaz. In it, I argued that the book was a simplistic and unoriginal take on a complex topic, more of a friendly conversation than any kind of serious analysis. The piece concluded by lamenting the erosion of public debate, as intellectuals of previous eras have been replaced by profiteers more interested in advancing narrow agendas than in exploring difficult questions.

The piece got Harris’s attention, and he publicly reached out to me on Twitter to invite me on his podcast to “discuss these issues.” Although some of his followers mocked the invitation, I gladly accepted, and we set a date and time for our debate.

That’s when things got interesting, because it turned out that Harris did not want a traditional debate or even an open discussion. As he wrote in one email:

I’d like you to just read [your piece], line by line, and I’ll stop you at various points so that we can discuss specific issues.

This was a bizarre and rather creepy way to structure our conversation. Think of how awkward it would be to read your writing in front of a critic who had empowered himself to stop, critique, and rebuke you whenever he wanted, with thousands of people listening. Even the strongest piece of writing cannot withstand a line-by-line cross-examination because such an exercise puts the writer in the witness box and therefore on the permanent defensive. If Harris’s rules were followed, our discussion would be more like an undignified show-trial than a frank conversation. Is there a single journalist who has ever participated in, much less proposed, this sort of guerrilla attack?

I replied to Harris and noted the absurdity of his invitation:

I really hope you were not literally intending for me to come on and read my essay on your podcast with you stopping me every other sentence as if I was in some kind of deposition or trial. This would be a totally fruitless conversation.

Instead, I proposed an alternative approach: We should each pick a few topics—reforming Islam, radical jihadists, holy war, etc—and have a debate around each one, alternating between who would kick things off. In other words, we should have a normal debate, on equal footing, where arguments could be tested against their rebuttals. Harris rejected that offer and firmly reiterated demand to be  judge, jury, and prosecutor.

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    • ronno

      it was only a ‘draw’ because omer refused to concede basic points like sam publishing an essay as a “get rich quick” scheme. he basically spewed shit for 3.5 hours and never made a single point if you believe omer came out of this with any credibility, you are not capable of serious intellectual inquiry.

    • DarthYan

      Part of the thing is that many Israelis are more misguided than evil. They can’t reconcile the fact that Israel committed war crimes with believing Palestinians are people so they blame Hamas for it all. Assuming all Israelis are like Aylet Shaked and Bibi Netanyahu (who even pro israeli people dislike) is like saying all cops are like Jon Burge or all black people were like Coral Eugene Watts

    • DarthYan

      I am actually curious about the links. Would you please provide them (I’m asking out of curiosity)

    • DarthYan

      They and likud both have charters that say the other can go screw. Likud says that the land between the river and the sea is ours, hamas says that all and will be theres. Personally I think both are awful nd that the only reason likud isn’t using suicide bombers is because they have access to missiles.

      Neither side are angels at this point. Israel’s gone hard right to the point even Joe Biden and other Israeli cheerleaders are starting to get weary of it all (I’m not joking.) Even pro israeli people are getting fed up with Bibi’s douch

    • DarthYan

      Except it doesn’t work cretin. Security experts agree with that.

    • DarthYan

      Now your being childish. I’ve been a commenter for years. I’ve openly insulted the Israeli right and compared them to nazis. I personally support a one state solution where neither holds dominance.

      But pointing out that the Khazar myth is a myth isn’t dedendibg has sea. Israel has committed more crimes but at the same time neither is free of warmongers (aylet shakad, Bibi, Avigdor, Hamas’s leader)

    • DarthYan

      Dude I hate hasbara. I described how Israel has repeatedly screwed the arabs a lot. I just point out that there are bigots who mask their hatred in legit critique.

      And fuck off attacking star wars.

    • DarthYan

      Dude, I’ve openly called Netanyahu genocidal and expressed contempt. I’ve openly argued against hasbara talking points.

      And leave Star Wars out of it. There are anti zionists who love it and it’s a good story regardless

    • 1DrM

      No one mentioned the Protocols, so you forget that red herring. It’s obvious you’re a desperate Zionist. The bootleg Jews of Europe(the majority of the invaders) sure as hell aren’t Semitic Hebrews. Is Yiddish a Semitic language? What’s this nonsense about DNA?! I’ve heard this BS HasbaRat talking point before and it holds no water. The very notion & the concept of Jewish “race” is ridiculous. How could that be, there are Black African Jews, Arab Jews, European Jews, Scandinavian Jews, Asian Jews. Jews are present among the citizens and natives of almost every nations on earth. Judaism is a religion, not associated with genes and DNA. They have no right to an inch of Palestine. Go back to watching Star Wars and leave the discussion to the adults, hasbaRat.

    • 1DrM

      The Khazar point is valid, they sure as hell aren’t Semitic Hebrews, but European userpers.

    • DarthYan

      I’ve seen way to many anti jewish people play the “Jews are khazars” or imply jews are evil and mask it in criticism of israel. There’s plenty of criticism of israel to go around (Richard Forer was a AIPAC member who did more research and did a 180 on the subject. But there are bigots who mask their hatred with criticism of israel. It’s like those who mask hatred of muslims with legit critique, or those who disguise hatred of the palestinians with criticism of hamas (Hamas is indeed a pretty nasty group.)

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Polish Magazine: “The Islamic Rape of Europe”

By on February 19, 2016 in Feature, Loon Media

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What was once old is new again. A Polish newsweekly that is popular on the right-wing published a racist magazine cover reminiscent of European fascist, xenophobic illustrations of the past. Poland has seen quite a number of Islamophobic and hateful events the past year, including a massive Islamophobic march in November but “The Islamic rape of Europe” cover line really takes the cake.

By Ishaan Tharoor, Washington Post

A popular right-wing Polish newsweekly, wSieci or “The Network,” published a deeply provocative magazine cover this week. It shows a young blonde woman, garbed loosely in the flag of the European Union, being groped by three men. Only the six swarthy arms and hands of the assailants are in view, but the message is clear and barely needs the brutal cover line: “The Islamic rape of Europe.”

According to the Daily Mail, the Polish magazine said it was focusing on “what the media and the Brussels elite are hiding from the citizens of Europe.” An editorial in its pages, entitled “Hell Europe,” inveighed against a culture of “tolerance and political correctness” that supposedly led to the grim scenes on New Year’s Eve in the German city of Cologne and other northern European town centers.

Groups of men, many apparently of Arab or North African descent, went on a shocking criminal rampage that led to hundreds of complaints to the police of rape, sexual harassment and other abuse. The incidents fed into an already growing backlash against European policies welcoming migrants and refugees, particularly an influx from war-torn Syria.

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    • Friend of Bosnia

      Mukhabarat and Daesh both. They have a vested interest in making it clear to refugees that they are not welcome in Europe and have therefore to slink back and beg on their knees ot be re-admitted into tyranny, or to stay put if they haven’t yet fled. Also because both have a common goal, to destroy all those forces which stand for freedom. To IS, the Assad regime, and Putin, they stand for all they despise (while Putin, Assad and IS, as well as the Milosevic-era Serb leadership – who still wield power – stand for everything that I despise). The problem is to obtain conclusive proof.

    • nativejoe

      You guys know that these criminals video themselves and post it BC they are proud that they jumped someone. The rape problem is not new but hasd not been corrected.

    • George Carty

      Who would your money be on, were you a betting man? Syrian Mukhabarat, Daesh, or some other organization?

    • Friend of Bosnia

      That’s very plausible; I asked myself on New year, why now? Why young men allegedly of Muslim background, and why at so many places at the same time? That can’t be a coincidence. If one asks himself “cui bono” one can’t arrive at another conclusion. Unfortunately there is no conclusive proof. On the other hand I don’t believe that it was spontaneous, nor that it’s the nature of young Muslims, as some would have us believe.

    • Friend of Bosnia

      Quite plausible. Yet people should remember that in 1918 and fir long afterwards they were worse off. There had been a devastating war; millions of lives lost; wholesale destruction; hunger; the “Spanish flu”; revolution and civil war in Russia; economies destroyed. Ys, they may surely feel bad. But actually it’s not that bad as it was after WWI, as my grandmother often told me. Except of course for Bosnia-Herzegovina and Syria

    • George Carty

      What do you think of the mass rapes in Cologne? They seem too organized to be just spontaneous criminality – do you think they could have been perpetrated by agents of the Syrian mukhabarat (or perhaps Daesh) precisely in order to induce Germany (and other European countries) to seal their borders against refugees?

    • George Carty

      It seems like the 2008 crash had had a similar effect on the European economy as WWI and the Treaty of Versailles, with Germany today taking the role of interwar Britain and France, while the Eurozone periphery takes the role of interwar Germany…

    • The greenmantle

      The whole deba

  • MichaelElwood

    Ilisha wrote: “Hillary Clinton is on board with neocon ‘regime change’ everywhere—previously Iraq, Syria and Libya.”

    It’s interesting that Clinton considers her foreign policy experience as one of her biggest assets. But nothing kind can be said about someone who makes the same mistakes over and over and doesn’t learn from them. Had she learned the lesson of Iraq, she wouldn’t have advocated for regime change in Libya. And had she learned the lesson of Libya, she wouldn’t have advocated for regime change in Syria. What makes it worse is that faux liberals like Clinton try to portray these interventions as being motivated by some maudlin concern for the people of these countries.

    Ilisha wrote: “It’s amazing how shallow politics are these days.”

    These days?

PSA: If You’re White, Don’t Drink And Watch Fox News!

By on January 22, 2016 in Feature

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By Emperor

This just in! White Americans should be aware, drinking and watching Fox News is a toxic combination that may cause you to transform into a white supremacist terrorist seeking to perpetrate violence against minorities.

Take the recent example of John David Weissinger. Maybe he had a bit of hate in him, maybe he lost his job or his wife cheated on him. We’re told he suffers from anxiety and depression. He also enjoyed a brew or two or, well, lets say a lot more than two. Apparently, as his lawyer tells it, after binge watching Fox News for a week straight he decided to threaten the CAIR chapters in San Diego and Washington.

Malowney said Weissinger has problems with alcohol, anxiety and depression and had just finished watching a week of Fox News coverage on the Charlie Hebdo massacre in Paris when he threatened the CAIR offices.

“He barks when he’s drunk,” Malowney told the judge. “He was reeling from depression and anxiety.”

A female employee at CAIR’s Kearny Mesa office testified during a preliminary hearing last April that she came to work the morning of Jan. 15, 2015, and listened to a threatening voicemail left by Weissinger.

“In no way did we deserve the terror that Mr. Weissinger waged on us,” the employee, identified as Jane Doe, said in a recorded statement played in court Tuesday. “Domestic terrorism is unacceptable and must be stopped.”

This isn’t the first time a Fox News watcher has gone loony. Remember Randy Linn? He was the guy who said, “I only know what I hear on Fox News,” then one day drank 45 beers, and decided to burn down a mosque in Toledo, Ohio.

Prosecutors said Linn drove about two hours from his home to suburban Toledo on Sept. 30 and broke into the mosque where he poured gasoline on the rug and lit it on fire.

He estimated that he had drunk 45 beers over several hours before he decided to drive to Ohio.

Linn had several firearms in his car and carried a gun into the mosque, which was empty at the time.

The fanatical Islamophobic hate against CAIR has been going on for years and sadly it hasn’t only been the usual online suspects and celebrity Islamophobes. The hatemongers have included elected public officials who give succor to conspiracies about the group, as well as presidential candidates such as Ben Carson.

So please, please don’t drink and watch Fox News!

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    • Reynardine

      Not waiting for Voodoo Donuts. I frosted the Big Bundy myself.

    • Reynardine

      To whom it may concern: I believe Brother Tanveer turns seventeen on the 13th.

    • Reynardine

      If you are white and watch Fox News, you can get your face on a donut.

      (Bundy donut courtesy of Voodoodonut)

    • JS

      Ironically enough, but from my own personal experience, the female news anchors on Fox news seem to be the most revealing of them all…

    • Reynardine

      Ammosexuals who spread gunorrhea.

    • Jekyll

      Vanilla ISIS baby ICE

    • HSkol

      Well, I see you got the news through here. What the heck with the other place?

    • Morrigan Nic Cormac

      I wonder if the idea of feminism itself wasn’t designed to be polarizing. Far too much of modern feminism is hateful towards men in general or women who refuse to self-identify as feminists. When you look at who funded some of the leading lights of modern feminism such as Gloria Steinem perhaps that shouldn’t be a surprise. I doubt the CIA and corporate foundations were interested in bringing us all together as one big happy family to overthrow the system.

      http://www.whale.to/b/how7.html

      I fully support equal rights for women and the redress of any legitimate grievances women have, as well as the right of each woman to define freedom in her own terms, and not those dictated by the media or society. But it seems that feminism has a monopoly on the concept of equality and “if you’re not a feminist, you’re a bigot” as Gloria Allred once said. This is like saying if you’re not a Republican, you’re a traitor.

      I can embrace ideas as you say without having to pin a label on myself and defend it. I can support women’s rights and reject feminism, just as I can support religious liberty without supporting religion.

    • mindy1

      Used to watch fox, can agree it can tweak at your nerves, but unless you are already nuts you will not kill because of it alone

    • Just_Stopping_By

      Every now and then it’s worth searching on stories about “terrorists” influenced by television. Stories come up more often than I would have expected.

    • Yausari

      So basically, fox news is an accessory for radicalization. Huh…

    • Reynardine

      I suspect you drink and watch Fox News.

    • Reynardine

      And now, for the real Fox News…

Kenya: Muslims Shield Christians From Al-Shabab Militants

By on January 14, 2016 in Anti-Loons

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Most of you have heard this story this past December but it is worth posting here. This is the level of resistance we need to all kinds of violence, whether perpetrated by the West or militant groups such as Al-Shabab.

Via. BBC

They told the militants “to kill them together or leave them alone”, a local governor told Kenyan media.

At least two people were killed in the attack, near the north-eastern village of El Wak on the Somali border.

The Somali based al-Shabab group says it carried out the attack.

The group often carries out attacks in Kenya’s north-east.

The bus was travelling from the capital Nairobi to the town of Mandera.

When al-Shabab killed 148 people in an attack on Garissa University College in April, the militants reportedly singled out Christians and shot them, while freeing many Muslims.

Last year, a bus was attacked near Mandera by al-Shabab militants, who killed 28 non-Muslims travelling to Nairobi for the Christmas holidays.

“The locals showed a sense of patriotism and belonging to each other,” Mandera governor Ali Roba told Kenya’s private Daily Nation newspaper.

The militants decided to leave after the passengers’ show of unity, he added.

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  • Muneer Khan

Arun Kundnani Versus Republican America on Islam and Terror

By on January 8, 2016 in Loon-at-large

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We missed posting this video but it is very instructive of the psychosis infecting the Right-wing and sectors of White America. (h/t: Alvin)

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    • Jonjon

      Oh look it’s the bimbo Scottie, a woman that has no clue and just rambles about nothing. Worthless human being that makes women look bad.

    • GaribaldiOfLoonwatch

      It is true. There was one famous case of Craig Monteilh in California, an undercover FBI agent provocateur that Muslims felt suspicious about and turned in.

  • The greenmantle

    inner self comming out

30 Percent of Republicans Want to Bomb Aladdin’s Hometown Agrabah

By on December 18, 2015 in Loon-at-large

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Public Policy Polling asked Republicans if they would want to bomb the fictional town of Agrabah in Disney’s Aladdin movie.

These are the results:

Support bombing Agrabah  …………………………30%

Oppose bombing Agrabah  …………………………13%

Not sure ……………………………………………………57%

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One wonders where all these Republicans were radicalized? Charles Pierce notes some more startling aspects of the polling.

1) That Marco Rubio’s unfavorable numbers are exactly the same (34 percent) as Donald Trump’s. Which makes Rubio seven points more unpopular than Ted Cruz, whom nobody likes except his mother, and she could be jiving, too. And that, in a head-to-head hypothetical, Cruz crushes Rubio, 48 percent to 34. Xenophobes have long memories, Marco.

2) That 80 percent of Republican primary voters favor banning gun sales to people on the no-fly list, not that it will matter.

3) That 46 percent of them want a database kept of all Muslims in America.

4) That just as many of them believe that Muslims danced on rooftops on 9/11 as do not believe that this thing that didn’t happen didn’t happen.

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    • The greenmantle

      er ..why ? do they invade wild life Refuges ?

    • Reynardine

      It’s a good thing I posted information on these useful vegetables here, because over at Hatewatch, they’re censoring sweet potatoes.

    • The greenmantle

      I grew a whole sweet potato last year which is good going for these parts Sir David

    • Reynardine

      They’re not nearly as floriferous as the regular morning glories, and seeds are only used for propagation to produce new varieties. Two kinds have to flower near each other at the same time for them to set seed at all. But for dark, ornamental foliage and fairly frequent flowers combined with delicious tubers, get Vardaman, which, while it is sold as a food variety, is frequently planted decoratively as well.

    • Reynardine

      As promised, a sweet potato flower (Ipomoea batatatas)

    • Reynardine

      We’re properly brought up. We don’t expose ourselves, and we don’t suggest that other people should do it.

    • Reynardine

      And then they wound up bombing Kiev by mistake.

    • Friend of Bosnia

      Tsk, tsk, tsk …

    • Mifeng86

      For a bit of a chuckle, more from our favorite Islamophobe VonHelton;

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6zOCr0NRH4

      Don’t watch this while drinking coffee, it burns when it’s shooting out of your nose XD!

    • Mifeng86

      ROFL! I can see Snooki’s Muslim-hating grandma(Pamela Geller) posting shrill headlines about Tom & Jerry now being Stealth Jihad1!!!111 XD!

    • Reynardine

      Certainly, I can see it, and so can they!

      Happy New Year!

    • Reynardine

      Addendum: Also to get a medical workup done far more cheaply than he could at home, even counting in the airfare. In that, he was successful, but as to the other, he can hardly wait to get home.

    • HSkol

      I’d advise using water soluble paste – you’ll have a tough time getting it off your screen if you use super glue or something like that.

      (I’ve had problems in Disqus across the board since around 2 PM.)

    • Reynardine

      For some reason, I can’t paste a link tonight, and I’ve done it before.

    • Reynardine

      Not for the first time, I have wondered. My godson has several times called me naïve. Although, given his current situation, perhaps that is… piquant.

    • Reynardine

      I have wondered. My godson has several times called me naïve.

    • Reynardine

      That’s fine. If the story originated then, we still might have an ur souce for Tom and Jerry.

    • Reynardine

      That’s my understanding. I can’t vouch for the source’s source.

    • GaribaldiOfLoonwatch

      That is really 14th century?

    • Reynardine

      Incidentally, folks, this, er, lady, who is keeping her account private, has also been over at Hatewatch making her cretinous and irrelevant remarks.

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France: Internment Camps

By on December 18, 2015 in Loon Politics
Muslims and anti-racists held a 700-strong rally near Paris last week against rising Islamophobia in France (Pic: Guy Smallman)

Muslims and anti-racists held a 700-strong rally near Paris last week against rising Islamophobia in France (Pic: Guy Smallman)

There are serious discussions regarding so-called “preventative” internment camps for those classed as “extremists” by the French state.

via. Socialist Worker

Days earlier prime minister Manuel Valls sought legal advice on setting up “preventative” internment camps for those classed as extremists.

The number of people in this category doubled to 20,000—the majority of them Muslims—between August and November.

Chair Sihame Assbague called for putting slips of paper saying “no votes without justice” in ballot boxes instead of voting papers.

Campaigner Marwan Muhammad criticised much of the left, “who couldn’t be here because they found it more important to justify themselves to racists.”

Salma Yaqoob, a leading figure from the anti-war movement in Britain, pointed to what could be gained from cooperation between Muslims and the left.

Hanane Karimi is a campaigner in eastern France where the FN led the first round.

She told Socialist Worker, “A victory for the FN would be a catastrophe for everyone.

“But its ideas have been allowed to become so widespread that it becomes a possibility.

“Politics have lurched to the far right. The Socialist Party has been the best possible advert for the FN.

“In France there is no political alternative—and perhaps we need to build one.”

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    • George Carty

      Even a materialist would not respect a country for being rich if (like KSA) it is rich purely due to an accident of geography rather than due to the productivity of its people.

      KSA and the other Gulf states are particular egregious examples as they actually hire foreigners to do most of the work!

    • George Carty

      From the way you spell your name I’d guess you were from a German-speaking country.

  • The greenmantle

    Now this is no surprize as Camp Sarko is alwaus trying to look tough against Islam in an attempt to out flank LePen and they would and do promise anything whilst in opposition .. I wouldn’t be surprised if they suggested the internment of all muslim first born frankly . I had some good news an older Frenchman I know , (who reads Le Point !) told me that it was mentioned at the Christmass Eve Midnight Mass he attended, that French Muslims were protecteding Churches in Paris . We were both impressed

    Wonder if that ever makes Fox news

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