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Donald Trump Says there is a Muslim Problem, Wants Obama’s Birth Certificate

Donald Trump is gearing up to run for president and is attempting to play to the uber-Conservative base of the Republican party. He questions Obama’s birth certificate, says “it might say he’s Muslim,” and also thinks there is a “Muslim problem,” to buttress this point he says he has been opposed to the “Ground Zero” mosque since the beginning. Talk about opportunist, if you look in the dictionary it might have Donald Trump’s sleaze ball face next to the definition.

Trump: World Has a ‘Muslim Problem’

by Hiram Reisner (Newsmax)

O’Reilly asked Trump whether there is a Muslim problem in the world.

“Absolutely, absolutely — I don’t notice Swedish people knocking down the World Trade Center,” Trump said. “I came out very strongly against the mosque being built virtually across the street.

“The fact is, it was so insensitive when they announced the mosque in that location,” he said. “Don’t forget, that’s my territory — Manhattan. When they announced the mosque in that location, I couldn’t believe it.”

Trump said although there is a world Muslim problem, it does not reflect on all Muslims.

“And that’s the sad part about life, because you have fabulous Muslims — I know many Muslims, and they are fabulous people, they’re smart, they’re industrious,” he said. “Unfortunately, at this moment in time, there is a Muslim problem in the world.”

Turning to the issue of Obama’s birth, Trump said at first he hadn’t contested the president was born in Hawaii, but circumstances made him think twice. He also said it is wrong to demonize people who question the need for Obama to produce proof.

“People have birth certificates . . . now, he may have one, but there is something on that birth certificate — maybe religion, maybe it says he’s a Muslim — or he may not have one,” Trump said. “But I will tell you this: If he wasn’t born in this country, it’s one of the great scams of all time.”

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    • It’s been clear for a very long time that Obama has a core set of beliefs that he religiously (no pun intended) sticks to. Trouble is, he doesn’t seem to realize that his ideas have destroyed everything they have touched repeatedly throughout history. It’s alright… if we survive until next year, the difficult road to Reconstruction -I use that word on purpose- can begin.

    • Trump needs to concentrate on his life and figure out why he had two failed marriages.Who wants a president to run a country when he can’t run a home?(Just saying.)….

    • Dehnus

      “But I will tell you this: If he wasn’t born in this country, it’s one of the great scams of all time.”

      Really? That’s how I think about your hair.

    • Ibrahim Shareef

      I desperately want to make a witty “you’re fired” reference here at Trump’s expense. Yet, I fail. Help me out.

  • Mosizzle and Dawood,

    I really think west actually skims through Armed forces websites, forums, chat rooms,and blogs for his info. And I am sure these sources are themselves informed by the likes of sites like “JihadWatch”. That blunder with the non-existent Arabic word “naqeesh” reminds of how Iraqis and Somalis got labeled as hajjis.

    They attached a pejorative meaning to a term that has high honor for Muslims. I think that that armed forces slang and West’s mistake are indicative of how Western armed forces twist what they hear of/from the natives and return to their respective countries acting as “experts” on Islam and/or Arab culture. Like I said, they’re over there killing people and trying not to get killed, not making jumu’a salat in a masjid or sitting in the circles of the mashaykh. They’re too busy trying to save us from ourselves and bring us the light of Freedom and Democracy, remember

Daily Star Reporter Quits Over Fictional Anti-Muslim Stories

This is pretty bad even for a tabloid.

Daily Star reporter quits in protest at tabloid’s ‘anti-Muslim’ coverage

The Daily Star has been accused of printing fictional stories by a disgruntled reporter who has resigned over its “hatemongering” anti-Muslim propaganda.

In a resignation letter, Richard Peppiatt said he was leaving after the Star gave sympathetic coverage to the far-right English Defence League last month.

Peppiatt admits producing a number of fictional stories about celebrities during his two years at the tabloid, a practice he implies was sanctioned by his seniors.

The reporter, who was once made to dress up in a burqa, now accuses the paper of inciting racial tensions and Islamaphobia. “You may have heard the phrase ‘the flap of a butterfly’s wings in Brazil sets off a tornado in Texas’,” Peppiatt wrote to the proprietor, Richard Desmond, in a letter seen by the Guardian.

“Well, try this: ‘The lies of a newspaper in London can get a bloke’s head caved-in down an alley in Bradford.’ If you can’t see that words matter, you should go back to running porn magazines.”

Desmond’s media empire has included pornographic magazines and adult TV channels as well as Express newspapers, Channel 5 and celebrity magazines. Desmond has said he was not consulted before the decision to publish the front-page story and editorial about the EDL.

Peppiatt tells him in his letter: “The weight of your ownership rests heavy on the shoulders of everyone, from the editor to the bloke who empties the bins.”

Peppiatt, who handed in his resignation this week, said the “incendiary” suggestion the EDL was planning to field election candidates was known to be an exaggeration. “But further up the newsprint chain it appears a story, too good to allow the mere spectre of reality to restrain, was spotted,” he wrote.

The EDL story is one of a number of prominent articles published by the Star that Peppiatt claims were made up, including some of his own. The reporter was recently involved in stories claiming Rochdale council had spent taxypayers’ money on “Muslim-only squat-hole loos”. In fact, the toilets were neither paid for by the local authority or “Muslim-only”.

“I was tasked with writing a gloating follow-up declaring our post-modern victory in ‘blocking’ the non-existent Islamic cisterns of evil,” Peppiatt wrote. The Press Complaints Commission later ruled the story was inaccurate and misleading.

The reporter also quotes Kelly Brook, who recently complained about the number of fabricated stories she reads about herself on the internet. She said: “There was a story that I’d seen a hypnotherapist to help me cut down on the time I take to get ready to go out. Where do they [journalists] get it from?”

Peppiatt wrote: “Maybe I should answer that one. I made it up. Not that it was my choice: I was told to.” He said he had “plucked” the story about Brook’s experimentation with hypnotherapy from his imagination, adding: “Not that it was all bad. I pocketed a £150 bonus.”

In a list of “my other earth-shattering exclusives” for the Star, Peppiatt recalls producing articles about Michael Jackson, the pop star Robbie Williams and Katie Price which he said had no factual basis.

He also admits making up a story suggesting that Matt Lucas was on suicide watch following the death of the comedian’s former civil partner. Lucas won substantial damages in court. Peppiatt criticises the Star’s editorial judgment in his letter, accusing it of hypocrisy, and “arranging the day’s news based on the size of the subjects’ breasts”.

He adds: “On the awe-inspiring day millions took to the streets of Egypt to demand freedom, your paper splashed on: JORDAN … THE MOVIE. A snub to history? Certainly,” he writes. “An affront to Journalism? Most definitely.”

As a young reporter desperate to make his name in Fleet Street, Peppiatt concedes he took to his commissions “with gusto”, but now questions the ethics of what he was required to do, suggesting he was at times promoting an anti-Muslim agenda.

“On order I dressed up as John Lennon, a vampire, a Mexican, Noel Gallagher, St George (twice), Santa Claus, Aleksandr the Meerkat, the Stig, a transvestite, Alex Reid. When I was ordered to wear a burqa in public for the day, I asked: ‘Just a head scarf or full veil?’ Even after being ambushed by anti-terror cops when panicked Londoners reported ‘a bloke pretending to be a Muslim woman’, I didn’t complain.

“Mercifully, I’d discovered some backbone by the time I was told to find some burqa-clad shoppers (spot the trend?) to pose with for a picture [with me] dressed in just a pair of skin-tight M&S underpants.”

Peppiatt’s letter concludes by criticising Desmond for not providing greater resources. “When you assign budgets thinner than your employee-issue loo roll there’s little option but for Daily Star editors to build a newspaper from cut-and-paste jobs off the Daily Mail website, all tied together with gormless press releases.

“But when that cheap-and-cheerful journalism gives the oxygen of publicity to corrosive groups like the EDL … it’s time to lay down my pen.”

The Daily Star rejected Peppiatt’s claims, implying he may hold a grudge against his employer after being “passed over” for several staff positions. It said: “Regarding the paper’s coverage of Islam, he never voiced any disquiet over the tone. For the record, the Daily Star editorial policy does not hold any negativity towards Islam and the paper has never, and does not endorse, the EDL.”[Peppiatt] refers to a Kelly Brook story – in fact he approached and offered the newspaper that story, vouched for its accuracy, and then asked for and received an extra freelance fee for doing so,” the statement said.

The Star also claimed that Peppiatt had been warned by senior reporters after suggesting he would make up quotes.

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    • Khushboo

      ^thanks for the info. I’m glad CNN covered this atleast.

    • corey

      chances of this story being on jihad watch would be very slim unless they can somehow spin it as being somehow a “stealth jihad” tactic.

    • jacque

      Muslim tries to help out Jews against Christian fundamentalists.

    • Ahlam

      Terry Jones response.. if there is any… to the murders he is responsible for will probably be along the lines of “Waah Waah Wahh… I’m so depressed by what I did.. I am going to go jump off my wallet!” *facepalm*

    • Khushboo

      @ Suley, errr…I’m confused. Am I pretending that these MUSLIM extremists were wrong to kill UN staffers?? why don’t you tell me what I’m thinkin since you’re such an expert that you know me better than I know myself. You’re so thick headed that it’s not worth my time arguing with you so I GIVE UP! I would like to move on to other issues please Thank you very much! I can never get my time back. *sigh*

    • Slevdi Davoteca

      He is responsible for these murders. Directly.

      He knew that his action of burning the Koran would wind up a percentage of Muslims in the world who would go bonkers and kill people. Yet he still did it. I find that unforgivable, especially in the name of free speech. All rights come with responsibilities.

      We can argue until the cows come home about whether these Muslims should know better or not, but the fact is we all know they don’t. That is why we shouldn’t play with fire like this. The consequences were totally predictable. This man has incited people to violence and people died as a result. He should be arrested and tried for that crime.

    • “Just pretending that that their moral code is bankrupt,”

      Sometimes I wish this site had a Private Message feature so that people could deal with their personal beefs.

      Suleyman I am sure you understand takfir. Because we are very reluctant to declare someone who says “La ilaha il Allah, Muhammad rasul Allah”, and “I am Muslim”, out of the fold of Islam for their behavior, some Muslims don’t like to hear the extremists being labeled “not religious” or even “non-Muslim”. It brings up the ancient debate of whether major sins take one out of the fold of Islam. However, we must be very careful to scrutinize if what we say makes it seem like ghuluw(extremism) is legitimately within the limits of Islamically permissible behavior. Ghuluw is a clear indication of moral degradation leading to moral bankruptcy, so we must be careful never to link ghuluw to Islam in any way.

      “Silence is not an option when a crime is done in the name of Islam”

      I agree with you on this, but this is a site dedicated to Islamophobia. As I told Dan, constantly bringing up Muslim crimes on a site like this is counterproductive and it looks like tu quouque deflection.

      Remember two things:

      (1)Explanation is not the same as justification. None of the Muslim posters here has ever justified the crimes committed by Muslims, committed in the name of Islam or not.Just because we give reasons for a behavior in order to bring about an understanding of the cause of that behavior does not mean we support the behavior itself.

      (2)Apologetics is not whitewashing, covering up or lying. The popular vernacular has turned the colloquial meaning of “myth” into “falsehood”, and now “apologetic” is equated with “lie”, both of which are inaccurate. Apologetics is the intellectual defense of a position. Calling someone an apologist, with the negative connotation intended, is the usual smear tactic of the Islamophobes, who rely on negative, differential meanings since the majority of their audiences are average people. Please be careful what we call fellow Muslims just because they disagree with our position. Calling someone a non-Muslim because of their behavior is a bit extreme, but calling their behavior irreligious is not, so labeling someone an apologist because of the latter is a bit inappropriate.

      Allahu A’lam ———————————

      “This sacred knowledge shall be borne by reliable authorities from each generation, who will preserve it from the distortions of extremists, the plans of the corrupt and the false explanations of the ignorant.” (Narrated mursal by Al-Bayhaqi in Kitab al-Madkhal on the authority of Ibrahim bin ‘Abd al-Rahman al-’Udhri.)

    • Solid Snake

      “If they do it in the the name of Islam, it obligates us to either correct them (after giving them a trial and punishment, which in this case merits the death penalty unless the victims family forgives them) or to applaud them.”

      yes I completely agree that we should punish them. As for your classifying Muslims into two groups I disagree: there are those who cannot act for many reasons, those who can act but do not, those who do act, those who ignore it, and those who applaud it. As for those who cannot act, they should make dua for the Muslims to be guided. Those who can act but do not we should advise them and encourage them to fight extremism. We should pray for the safety for those that do combat extremism.

      Again I disagree with you on another point. We all know that there are certain actions that can cause you to leave the fold of Islam. And killing inoccent Muslims and non Muslims is one of those actions. So yes we can label them as kuffaar they have spilt the blood and took the lives that Allah has prohibited from being take .

      As for ” It isn’t Islam of course, that is not what I said, but where are the riots condemning them abusing Islam?” Riots are forbidden in Islam due to the destruction, chaos, and injuries that occur as a result. If you mean where are the voices speaking out against extremist Muslims then for a start you have the writers and readers of loonwatch, scholars worldwide from Saudi Arabia to North America. I mean it’s obvious no one is applauding them or making excuses for them. Understanding the particulars of their situation as some readers have commented is another thing entirely.

    • Suleyman

      What makes the Afghan attacks particulary heinous, Sam Seed, is that the government actually saw fit to publish pastor terry Jones video on the news. Something the MSM in the west did not do. The Aghan govt itself is responsible for this if the media is state controlled. Hamid Karzai should be in the dock if Afghan media is state controlled., along with the men who comitted this crime, and all those who were inciting it. The strictest punishments should go to those who were doing it in the name of Islam to deter Islam being abused. Let them comit their crimes in the name of their ugly, misogynistic worse than animal like tribal culture.Not in the name of Islam.

    • Mosizzle

      Let it go, Suleyman, we all agree that what the Afghan protestors did was wrong. We may have different opinions as to what is responsible (personally I blame the people who were inciting the violence in Afghanistan), but that is less important.

      We, as Muslims, are outraged that such atrocities are being committed in the name of our religion.

    • Suleyman

      Solid Snake Wow, either you do not know the concept of moral code or you are ignorant of the Muslim moral code. Those are the only two reasons I can think of tht would prompt u to make such a baseless statement. It’s actually really an embarressing fallacy, what your saying in a nutshell is that since these people did it in the name of Islam, however that would maybe twisting Hadith/ayat or just yelling Allahu Akbar, that what they are doing is in compliance with Islamic moral code. That’s what u are basically saying. “it makes their moral code Muslim” wow….

      No, I did not say that their actions are within the limits prescribed for Muslims. I said;If they do it in the the name of Islam, it obligates us to either correct them (after giving them a trial and punishment, which in this case merits the death penalty unless the victims family forgives them) or to applaud them.

      Now we can sympathise with Afghani’s because of the occupation, (Russian, then American) and their suffering because of drone attacks, American criminal army tactics, but not their misognyistic tribal ways, expecially if they do it in the name of Islam. It isn’t Islam of course, that is not what I said, but where are the riots condemning them abusing Islam?

      Are you suggesting we should keep quiet, with the byline, “oh they’re tribals, and they are occupied?” To hell with their tribal ways, which are actually forbidden. Wasn’t tribalism outlawed by Al Rasool (PBUH)? I think it is about time we raised armies ourselves against miscreants like these.

      Just pretending that that their moral code is bankrupt, and giving them a sly pat on the side for their “tribal” ways, with a wink like Sam Seed just did, is not an option.

      KhushbooSuley, you sound like a typical Islamophobe calling me an “apologist”. I don’t think you’re comprehending what I posted. Lookee, Khushboo really does suffer from a bad case of pretending and insisting on what others are what he wants them to be, rather than what they are. I am no more an Islamophobe than Afghan extremists are non Muslims.

    • corey

      besides I haven’t heard news of muslims in america rioting in the streets because of what Yosemite sams older cousin did.

    • corey

      besides haven’t heard news of muslims in america rioting in the streets because of what Yosemite sams older cousin did.

    • Mosizzle

      Wow, that’s 7 commenters so far on this thread that agree that the behaviour of the Afghan protestors was totally unacceptable. Some of the above commenters are completely hostile to the idea that Islam encourages such uncivilised behaviour. How does this go with Robert Spencer’s belief that this is a “Leftist pro-jihad site” made up of “Islamic Supremacists” and “Stealth Jihadis”? Yeah, thanks for bringing this up John.

      A lot of people throw around the extremist label willy-nilly. Let’s reserve it for the true Muslim extremists that pose a threat to Islam in general as well as the countries in which they live.

    • jacque

      Dan states, “I can understand why Arab countries only allow state-appointed imams and khutbahs. If Pakistan and Afghanistan had state-appointed imams and khutbahs, perhaps such fanaticism would not be widespread.”

      Most Arab countries allow state-appointed imams so that those religious leaders will not say anything bad about the regime. Dictatorships have to be concerned about their image. In Saudi, you can be jailed for making or writing critical comments about the royal family. Saudi uses Islam to control its population.

      Look at one state that did not have state-appointed Mullahs. That would be Iran. The movement against the Shah began by Imams criticizing the regime in the mosques and then it grew from there. The Arabs probably saw this and realized they needed to control the religious leaders in their respective countries.

      As for Afghanistan, how is appointing Imams going to help? Most of the educated class left the country almost fourty years ago. The only religious leaders left are the ones who combine Islam with tribal law that is embedded in the region.

      Though I disagree completely with you on that topic, I fully agree with you on the subject of Terry Jones. I will use the Salman Rushdie angle. By putting a fatwa on his head, Rushdie received a ton of publicity and became famous. That fame made him very wealthy and put him on a pedestal where he did not belong. It would have been better if nothing had been said against him. The Satanic Verses probably would not have sold well and he would have faded into oblivion. The same can be said of Jones. If you don’t give him any attention, he’s nobody, so why make him into a somebody.

    • Solid Snake

      And no I am not an apologist nor do I sympathize with any form of extermisim or extremists. No man is above the law whether he is a Muslim or Non Muslim. I condem all forms of extermisim and extremists.

      It sure is a pity that we have to throw out such disclaimers on a site dedicated to stopping extremisim, It should be obvious, I guess The loons are out in full force on the threads here.

World Net Daily worries that if you eat “halal” food you’re eating food sacrificed to idols

WND, the wacky right wing Evangelical website is forwarding the myth that halal food is sacrificed to idols. They also peddle the conspiracy that Americans are going to be forced to eat halal food. The piece from God Discussion is an excellent rebuttal.

World Net Daily worries that if you eat “halal” food you’re eating food sacrificed to idols

(God Discussion)

Pastor Mark Biltz over at World Net Daily worries that you might inadvertently eat “halal” food in the good old US of A–a country of many cultures—food he says is sacrificed to idols, and “catch” Islam like a virus.    Ignorance of Islam is at its highest in this comment by Pastor Biltz:

At issue, says Mark Biltz of El Shaddai Ministries in Bonney Lake, Wash., is eating food that’s “halal,” in other words “lawful” or “permitted” for the Muslim diet.

Muslims join many Jews and some Christians in avoiding the consumption of certain animals such as pigs and birds of prey, but those of the Islamic faith also have their meat blessed in the name of their god, Allah.

“From the Christian standpoint, Allah would be an idol,” Biltz told WND.”

From a faith standpoint, “Allah” IS God, NOT an idol.  Allah.org states:

Allah is the personal name of the One true God. Nothing else can be called Allah. The term has no plural or gender. This shows its uniqueness when compared with the word god which can be made plural, gods, or feminine, goddess. It is interesting to notice that Allah is the personal name of God in Aramaic, the language of Jesus and a sister language of Arabic.

The One true God is a reflection of the unique concept that Islam associates with God. To a Muslim, Allah is the Almighty, Creator and Sustainer of the universe, Who is similar to nothing and nothing is comparable to Him. The Prophet Muhammad was asked by his contemporaries about Allah; the answer came directly from God Himself in the form of a short chapter of the Quran, which is considered the essence of the unity or the motto of monotheism. This is chapter 112 which reads:

“In the name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate. Say (O Muhammad) He is God the One God, the Everlasting Refuge, who has not begotten, nor has been begotten, and equal to Him is not anyone.”

The Quran also condemns the worship of idols, same as the Christian God:

The Quran reminds us of the falsity of all alleged gods. To the worshippers of man-made objects, it asks:

“Do you worship what you have carved yourself?” (37:95)

“Or have you taken unto you others beside Him to be your protectors, even such as have no power either for good or for harm to themselves?” (13:16)

Moreover, the term “Allah” is used by Arabic speakers of all Abrahamic faiths (let us not forget that Islam is a branch from the same tree as Christianity and Judaism).  That means that Mizrahi Jews, Eastern Catholics,  Ba’hai’s, and Eastern Orthodox Christians, as Arabic speakers, use the word “Allah.”

As for WND’s and Pastor Biltz’ worry that you and I are eating “halal” food unawares, every day we eat Jewish kosher food and it hasn’t hurt anyone. World Net Daily can’t even get the halal process right.  The halal process goes like this:

Halal Meat – The Process
The slaughtering rules (dhabh in Arabic) for Halal, which are based on Islamic teachings, ethics and jurisprudence need to strictly follow the guidelines below:
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The premises, equipment and machinery must be classed according to Islamic Shariah (Law) before any production takes place
A trained Muslim man should slaughter the animal in a licensed slaughter house with the implementation of all the hygiene and animal welfare regulations
The slaughterman must be a mature and pious Muslim of sound mind who fully understands the fundamentals and conditions relating to Halal slaughter and must be licensed by the Meat Hygiene Service
The animal/bird must be fed and grown on natural vegetarian diet
The animal/bird must be alive, healthy and free from any disease or injury at the time of slaughter. This should be certified and checked by a veterinary surgeon
The animal’s skin or fur and bird feathers must be clean prior to slaughter and free from faeces, dirt or other unhygienic substances
The animal/bird should be fed and should not be hungry or thirsty before slaughter
The animal should not be slaughtered in front of other animals and no blood seen so that no stress or discomfort has been caused to the animal
The animal should be handled gently and individually
The knife should be very sharp and clean and should not be sharpened in front of any animal before slaughter
The Muslim slaughterman says the following before slaughtering: in the name of Allah, Allah is greatest (Bismillah, Allah Akbar)
The cut to be done in the right anatomical position in the throat by cutting the two carotids, the two jugulars, the windpipe and the gullet, but without cutting the spinal cord
All blood should be allowed to be drained from the carcass
A specific time should be allowed till the animal ceases any movement
De-feathering, de-skinning and evisceration can be done afterwards
Any unlawful meat like pork should not contaminate Halal meat. Separate knives, equipment and utensils should be used for Halal meat

So don’t worry, folks. Eating halal meat isn’t going to make you a involuntary Muslim anymore than eating kosher food unawares makes you an involuntary Jew.

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    • Stupid beyond belief. If I eat jalepenos will I start spaeaking Spanish? What an idiot!

    • UK Muslim

      Are Arab Christians who worship Allah idol-worshippers & what about their Bibles?

    • jdb

      Christians do not consider the Jews and Muslims God to be the same as theirs, to them Jesus is God, the son, and the holy ghost. And if you don’t believe that,then you don’t believe in the same God.

    • Daniel

      In the Aramaic New Testament (the language Jesus spoke), God is “Allah”.

      I am no longer surprised at the appaling ignorance of supposedly educated pastors.

    • Yearp, they don’t want people to know that in M’asia and Indo Christians both use the word ‘Allah’ but also use other phrases such as ‘Massallah’ and ‘Ins’allah’. Same goes for, of course, Arabic speaking Christians. However, it’s possible if not probably that the writers of this article don’t consider the groups we are both talking about true Christians and as people who need to be ‘rebirthed’ or whatever it is they do to them so we are kinda talking to the wind…

    • Masa

      Jack,

      Legally, yes. My point was that while these people – as mentioned in the article – are still going around talking about ‘Allah’ being the name of some idol, or some sort of ‘moon god’ getting a hefty promotion, their co-religionists in say, the rest of the world, have embraced ‘Allah’ as another way to refer to ‘God’.

      Its unbelievable how these loons go all apesh*t over the silliest things.

    • I thought they got it Masa, didn’t the High Court in KL revoke the previous judgment?

    • Masa

      “From the Christian standpoint, Allah would be an idol,” Biltz told WND.”

      Interesting… at the same time, Christians here in Malaysia are trying to get approval for their usage of ‘Allah’ in their religious texts, ceremonies, etc.

    • Daniel

      Ironically, the Apostle Paul made it clear in 1 Corinthians that eating meat sacrificed to idols does not defile a Christian, and it is a sign of weakness to think that it does.

      Double the irony that Islam is far more iconoclastic than Christianity, which views images of God as ok.

  • Farlowe

    Vegetarianism is the answer to all this.

Iowa Voters Still Believe Obama is a Muslim

It looks like Sean Hannity and company are getting wackier by the minute. Here a panel group of caucus voters from Iowa say they believe Obama is an evil Mooslim.

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    • Jack

      Obama should turn Muslim just to piss them off and be done with these allegations. I’m surprised they didn’t bring up his birth certificate.

      But you know what it is? These people inform their world view by the antics of Glenn Beck and Fox News. So they don’t see a people’s revolt against a corrupt and autocratic leadership that has left them poor and on the outside. They see a move towards a second Iran. They’ve been spoon-fed these bogeyman stories about the Muslim Brotherhood, and they’d like Obama to come out and say he’ll never allow Egypt to turn into a theocracy.

      Of course, the next question then would be: so what are you going to do about it?

      The other day, I heard Bill ‘O Reilly saying he wanted a Reagan-like stance on Egypt from Obama. A slogan like: “Mr. President, tear down this wall!” So, apparently, Obama is damned if he does side with the Egyptian people and damned if he doesn’t. Because if he does: then obviously he must be favorable to the Muslim Brotherhood, him being a ‘secret Muslim’ and all; and if he doesn’t openly side with the Egyptian people, he’s too passive and not statesmen like.

      Also, these people have no clue that Hosni Mubarak has been our dictator for the last thirty years. He was our guy, preventing radical Islamists from taking over, and ensuring Egypt’s peace-treaty with Israel would endure. Unfortunately, he also suppressed his own people, putting any viable opposition to his rule in prison. For God’s sake he tortured people on our behalf. So how could one expect the US President to switch sides overnight and cheer on the crowds OR call on Mubarak to repress them in the wake of these popular uprisings?

      The Egyptian ruling power is already groaning and moaning that America isn’t very loyal to long standing allies like themselves. How do you think it looks to other dictators in the region (and beyond) that are backed by the US? You can bet they’re scratching their chins and think: hmmm… maybe I should be looking out for new patrons. Spread my risks. If the US turns on me, I’d still have China or Russia to back up my reign.

      All this is obviously way beyond the Iowa Republican opinion panel.

      So sad: we used to think of Archie Bunker as a mock figure. A relic of the past. But with the resurgence of right-wing Republicanism from the eighties on, their bigotry has become a force to be reckoned with.

    • khushboo

      Whoopi Goldberg of “The View” was extremely angry with this Iowa Group saying that not only were they wrong about Obama being a Muslim but that it doesn’t matter even if he is a Muslim. Even Elizabeth Hasselbeck agreed with her.

    • Jack

      Loved this one:

      “I think he believes America is at fault for the world’s problems. I think he doesn’t see the good that America does in the world.”

      Yeah, like dismantling Iraq so that it could become the chaotic, depleted plutonium ridden hell-hole it now is; or making war in Afghanistan, or bombing Pakistan, or supporting dictators all over the world, or supporting Israel and it’s wars and colonialist policies.

      These people are suffering from a serious case of ignorance, and are in serious need of some Chomsky.

  • AJ

    Hey Y,

    If you are a woman, I had something like this in mind:

    http://bloodworthweb.blogspot.com/2010/08/burka-debate-if-bit-late.html

    And then you can sing along loudly or perhaps have all windows in your car down and play loudly:

    THIS LAND IS YOUR LAND words and music by Woody Guthrie

    Chorus: This land is your land, this land is my land From California, to the New York Island From the redwood forest, to the gulf stream waters This land was made for you and me

    As I was walking a ribbon of highway I saw above me an endless skyway I saw below me a golden valley This land was made for you and me

    Chorus

    I’ve roamed and rambled and I’ve followed my footsteps To the sparkling sands of her diamond deserts And all around me a voice was sounding This land was made for you and me

    Chorus

    The sun comes shining as I was strolling The wheat fields waving and the dust clouds rolling The fog was lifting a voice come chanting This land was made for you and me

    Chorus

    As I was walkin’ – I saw a sign there And that sign said – no tress passin’ But on the other side …. it didn’t say nothin! Now that side was made for you and me!

    Chorus

    In the squares of the city – In the shadow of the steeple Near the relief office – I see my people And some are grumblin’ and some are wonderin’ If this land’s still made for you and me.

    Chorus (2x)

    I have not tried it with burka on, but sing it all the time with my hijab on and windows up

Frank Gaffney Equals Paranoid Fearmongerer

Frank Gaffney

Gaffney Still Fearmongering About Sharia In U.S.

On Fox News’ Fox & Friends, right-wing pundit and former Assistant Secretary of Defense Frank Gaffney baselessly claimed that “Muslim Brotherhood front organizations” are influencing the U.S. government and are pushing “subversive techniques” to impose Sharia law in the U.S. Gaffney has a history of using Fox News to push his conspiracy theories about Sharia law.

Gaffney Baselessly Suggests “Muslim Brotherhood Front Organizations” Are Infiltrating U.S. Govt., Institutions

Gaffney Baselessly Claims “Muslim Brotherhood Front Organizations” Have “Intensive Influence” On U.S. Government’s View Of Muslims. During the January 31 edition of Fox News’ Fox & Friends, co-host Gretchen Carlson discussed the recent protests in Egypt with Frank Gaffney, President of the American Center for Security Policy. After talking about the possible extent of the Muslim Brotherhood’s role in the Egyptian protests, Gaffney went on to further suggest that “councils of the United States government…have been subjected to intensive influence operations by known Muslim Brotherhood front organizations in this country to believe that these guys are somehow nonviolent.” [Fox News, Fox & Friends, 1/31/11]

Gaffney Fearmongers Over “Sharia-Compliant Finance” And “Insinuations Of Sharia Into Our Courts.” Gaffney also told Carlson:

GAFFNEY: I think as we say in our book, it’s much more the case that [Muslim Brotherhood front organizations] are pre-violent [rather than nonviolent]. They will use violence when the circumstances are right and in the meantime, they’re using subversive techniques of various kinds, including Sharia-compliant finance and various kinds of insinuations of Sharia into our courts and other ways to try to accomplish their ultimate objective, which is to bring Sharia about worldwide. [Fox News, Fox & Friends, 1/31/11]

Gaffney Refers To Gaza As The “So-Called Palestinian Area.” Responding to one of Carlson’s questions about the extent of the Muslim Brotherhood’s activities in the Middle East, Gaffney referred to the Gaza Strip as the “so-called Palestinian area.” [Fox News, Fox & Friends, 1/31/11]

Gaffney Has A History Of Incendiary And Islamophobic Attacks

Gaffney: “The Left” And “The Islamists…Are Advancing The Takedown Of America.” On the August 23, 2010, edition of Fox News’ The Glenn Beck Show, Gaffney told host Glenn Beck:

I think there’s a commonality of interests between folks who embrace what we’ve talked about before, as kind of the transnational agenda of the left and the transnational agenda of the Islamists … They are working in concert in a lot of different ways that are advancing the takedown of the America, the mutation, or fundamental transformation of America in ways that will, I’m afraid, make it much more difficult for us to stop either of these agendas at our expense. [Fox News, The Glenn Beck Show8/23/10]

Gaffney: Obama Administration “Has Exhibited A Sympathy…For The Agenda…Of The Muslim Brotherhood.” Also on the August 23, 2010, edition of The Glenn Beck Show, Gaffney told Beck, “I think this administration has exhibited a sympathy, and the president particularly, a sympathy for the agenda of folks who are, in fact, under one front organization or another of the Muslim Brotherhood, seeking to promote Sharia in America.” Gaffney went on to claim, “Virtually any Muslim-American organization in this country, of any prominence, is a Muslim Brotherhood front,” and referenced the Holy Land Foundation case. In fact, the organizations Gaffney is referencing donated to the Holy Land Foundation before it was uncovered that the organization was secretly funneling money to terrorists. [Fox News, The Glenn Beck Show8/23/10Media Matters2/18/107/27/10]

Gaffney Wrote That Signs With “‘Sharia’ Lettered In Dripping, Blood-red Ink” Were “Informed Opposition” To The Park 51 Mosque. On August 26, 2010, Gaffney wrote in an op-ed in theWashington Times that protesters of the Park 51 mosque “had come together … in informed opposition to the impetus behind that mosque: Sharia.” As an example of “informed opposition,” he pointed to “signs [throughout the crowd] with just the word ‘Sharia’ lettered in dripping, blood-red ink.” [Washington Times8/26/10]

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    • Abdulmajid

      Unfortunately one just needas to open the comment section of just about any article which in any way deals with Muslims to read such disgusting genocidal inflammatory vitriolic hate messages like “It is time to implemet the Final Solution for Muslims because they have in 1400 years killed a million zillion grillion Christans and Jews, because tehy want to convert all by force ort kill them, because Islam is evil by nature, because as opposed to Christianity the religion of love, Islam is the religion of evil blah blah blah”, the same wordings of Radovan Karadzic and his cronies; and one could get the impression that the Americans have turned into a nation of genocidal, racist, fascist, bigot, white-supermacist, anti-Muslim simpletons and morons. Like the Serbs. They can say “The West has left behind the days of the Crusades, of the Inquisition, of the witch burnings etc.” Maybe so, but what did that same West in the 20th century? The wholesale colonialist massacres in Africa and the Middle East, not just but mainly against Muslims; and ironically in Ethiopia against one of the oldest Christian nations on Earth; the Holocaust; Stalinism and the Gulag; Nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the fire-bombing of civilians in Japan and Germany; Agent Orange in Vietnam; supporting murderous tyrannical genocidal cleptocratic regimes like that of Saddam Hussein, Mubarak or Nazarbayev. All that was committed not by Muslims, but by Christians, or at least by people who claim a Christian background, no doubt feeling that they did no wrong, because since “Jesus already has redeemed their sins by his death on the Cross”, any sins future generations of Christians might commit, then it is all right if they commit all kinds of hideous crimes. They constantly do the opposite of what they preach. As the Mahatma Gandhi once said “You Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Right he was! In the name of their “religion of love” they have tried to subdue and conquer all the world and have always done the most horrible acts of violence to all non-white populations. And yet they have the #u(&ing NERVE to say “Christians are the victims, the world is in danger of being subverted by the Islamic Caliphate!” I must correct myself, these are not simpletons, they are incredibly malicious and evil, they are the nazis of today, they say about Muslims what the Nazis said about Jews, in all impunity, and if I had the misfortune of knowing such a person I think I must punch him until he bleeds to get out all that evil from his head, but unfortunately the evil of such persons will only be gone when they are gone, and maybe not even then. Such people are not above sending anybody they don’t happen to like to their deaths, coldly smiling, without hesitating so much as a second. That’s why I call them genocidals. And their feeling so superior to the Mooslims, because “the West may have done terrible things with the Crusaeds, the witch hunts, the slave trade” and they conveniently forget that the way they talk about Muslims exactly as Bernard of Clairvaux and Pope Urban VII (“Deus lo vult”; anyone with a minimum of education should know what I’m talking about) and the Grand Inquisitor Cardinal Cisneros, one of the most prominent figures of the ethnic cleansing of Muslims from the Iberian Peninsula in the 16th century and who personally fought military campaigns in North Africa. Namely: “The Muslims are evil, kill all Muslims!” It is good and commendable of you to expose these people for what they are, but they are not just loonies (certainly they are as crazy as a nut house), they are as dangerous as the Nazis were! Mark my words, they are as evil and dangerous as the Nazis and should they ever get power in the USA they will turn it into a clerical-fascist dictatorship of the most evil sort.

    • mike

      Speaking of loons. Remember our friend David Wood? He is going to be interviewing our other friend Anjem Chauidary on a Christian TV Show.. Haha I think this is going to be the best comedy act of the year. Topic: Would Shariah help the West. Let the freak show begin … Gaffney has already lost touch with reality..

    • CNN: Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood: A force to be feared?

      “The Muslim Brotherhood has nothing to do with the Iranian model, has nothing to do with extremism as we have seen it in Afghanistan and other places. The Muslim Brotherhood is a religiously conservative group. They are a minority in Egypt,” he (Elbaradei) told CNN.

      “I have been reaching out to them. We need to include them. They are part of the Egyptian society, as much as the Marxist party here,” he said.

      He rejected the idea that Islamic fundamentalists are set to undermine Egypt.

      “This is a myth that was sold by the Mubarak regime — that it’s either us, the ruthless dictators, or… the al Qaeda types,” he said.

      Analyst Abulhimal is convinced Egyptians would not let the Muslim Brotherhood seize power — not least because the military would stand in its way.

      “Neither the people nor the secular leaders would allow the Muslim Brotherhood to take it, and more importantly the army would never allow the Muslim Brotherhood to take it,” he said. “If the army said, ‘We would support the people in the street and we would have a deal with President Mubarak to have an orderly transition,’ as the Americans said yesterday — this would definitely not include the Muslim Brotherhood.”

      http://articles.cnn.com/2011-01-31/world/egypt.muslim.brotherhood_1_egypt-s-muslim-brotherhood-ayman-nour-protests?_s=PM:WORLD

    • Gaffney reminds me of the the old segregationists of yesterday. Quite a few of them in our history had long successful lives feeding racists fantasies such as Gaffney’s. Racist talk is popular with Americans; it seems to strike a chord with people. Can we think of a public official who has been marginalized because of it? That’s something Gaffney a very astute figure has picked up on.

  • mindy1

    What on earth is he smoking??? What on earth is he thinking

Fisher Price: Islam is the Light Baby Doll?

A blast from the past. Around Christmas time 2008 a doll was being sold by Fisher Price that cooed and gaga’d but through the power of suggestion some started to believe that the doll was saying, “Islam is the light,” but if you listen closely you could make it out to say anything:

Spencer and other Islamophobes jumped on this at the time and put it forward as another instance of the insidious creeping Jihad. One of Texas’s finest, Pastor David Grice extrapolated that the doll was a sign of “us” being “under attack religiously,” strangely he also saw a foreign Chinese conspiracy involved as well:

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    • That doll makes more sense than old Robert Spencer, Pam Geller, and the rest of their crazy Islamophobic brethren.

    • LaRoja

      What the hell was this?

    • Just goes to show that for every nut on one side, you have nuts on the other with just as much ‘acceptance’.

      And yes, it is odd that these people ‘see’ Islam wherever they go… Obsession? Fear? Inferiority complex? Whatever it is they see it more than most Muslims!

  • Syed

    LOL! The doll is apparently a mooslem-loving, leftist-commie dhimmi

Joe Kaufman O-Meter #4: Paying Homeless Folk to Attend his “Protests”

Joe Kaufman

What did we expect from Joe “nuke the Mooslims” Kaufman? For years now the gum-shoe “investigative journalist” has been gathering his handful of protesters to demonstrate at the conferences, gatherings, festivals and events of American Muslim organizations or leaders.

By now most in the American Muslim community and otherwise view Kaufman and his handful of protesters as curious sideshow distractions, oddities, mere nuisances and objects of fitful laughter, kinda like the Westboro Baptist Church people or Pastor Terry Jones.

Kaufman’s crew recently had one such protest on Jan, 08, 2011 at an ISNA (Islamic Society of North America) event in his home state of Florida:

Here’s a sampling of some of the…”Interesting”…messages:

“What’s Next, Fort Hood?” and “Don’t Tread on Me” flag

Granma’s scared of Mooslims:

“No Islam” and “Obama evil Mooslim”

If they weren’t holding signs claiming that “Obama (the “b” is replaced to read Osama) chooses Muslim needs to show victory over Americans…” and other general wacky anti-Muslim conspiracy theories you’d think a group of senior citizens had gathered on the corner waiting to be picked up to go to their weekly bingo game.

This in it self would be comedic gold, but it doesn’t stop there, a source who wishes to stay anonymous informed us that Kaufman and his buddies are asking homeless people to join their protests in return for pizza and spare change.

“Red” is on the bike

After Kaufman’s most recent protest ended our source noticed that they left one of their fellow protesters behind, a local homeless man who goes by the name “Red.”

Red we are told is a very nice man, he told our source that he was “paid in pizza to help in the protest” and he was also given some “spare change.” He didn’t know what the protest was about, but he was hungry and wanted to eat. So he helped!

The source also mentioned homeless people in photos of previous protests that Joe Kaufman and Americans Against Hate held, such as the one at the Islamic Center In Pompano Beach. He was told by Muslim neighbors of the Center that the people at Joe Kaufman’s protest are local homeless people.

For Kaufman this may be a new low, trying to up his pathetically low numbered “protests” by paying homeless folk. I can’t say I am surprised at Kaufman’s sleazy antics, just astonished that there are even a handful wasting their retirement. I guess the moral of the story is if you’re ever hungry and near a Kaufman protest you can assure yourself some Dominoes pizza…but unlike the homeless individual who was truly hungry you might be selling your soul, and we all know how hard it is get your soul back once you sell it for yummy food:

Who is he?:

Joe Kaufman, has been on the Anti-Muslim scene for quite a while now and is dubbed by the far Right-Wing FrontPageMag as, you guessed it…another one of their ”Investigative Journalists.”  That he has been influenced by Meir Kahane and the Kahanist ideology is well documented, as is his love and angst for Kahane.

In the past he has been accused of contributing to the terrorist organization founded by Kahane known as JDL (Jewish Defense League) while others accuse Kaufman of at the very least holding views that parallel JDL positions.

Kaufman’s unsavory associations and views are quite real and they are only dangerous to America if you’re stupid enough to swallow his conspiracy theories but other than that he is simply a half-baked paranoid conspiracy theorist, some what along the lines of the “9/11 Truthers.”

In every nook and cranny there is a “Mooslim”…hiding and ready to get ya…so beware and be afraid. Be veryyyy afraid goes his story.

In this special LoonWatch series we will detail the exploits and punchlines that Krazy Kaufman throws out there and attempts to pass on as serious journalism, commentary and investigation.

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    • joe

      Anonymous reports of a homeless guy getting paid to protest.

      Contrast with left wing traitors like yourself getting jihad passes for shilling for Muslim Brotherhood.

    • NassirH

      How ridiculous of me to ridicule your comparison of a lone wolf to an unruly mob of thousands.

      Actually, you suggested that people who attempt to burn and bomb mosques aren’t against religious freedom for Muslims. That’s even obvious in my comment which you copy/pasted.

    • Yes, because the Southerners who attempt to bomb or burn down mosques obviously support freedom of religion for Muslims. How ridiculous of me to suggest that people who commit violence against Muslim believe otherwise.

      How ridiculous of me to ridicule your comparison of a lone wolf to an unruly mob of thousands.

    • Mosizzle

      “One guy with a Molotov cocktail vs thousands in an unruly mob”

      Not how Spencer, your idol, sees it. If one Muslim does something bad he will act like he did it because of Islam and as a result Muslims are guilty of the criminal’s crime and should do something about it.

      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/12/finland-albanian-muslim-kills-five-people-in-mall-shooting-spree.html

      I rest my case.

      (Note: He did say “maybe he did” have another motive. But we know what he’s implying by pasting that on jihadwatch — that is was an act of Jihad and he expresses doubt that he did it for any other reason. Even though major news outlets that covered the story found he did it because his ex-girlfriend (real devout Muslim here!) worked in the shopping mall)

  • NassirH

    Yes, I’m sure someone could be fond of your hypothetical scenario.

    Yes, because the Southerners who attempt to bomb or burn down mosques obviously support freedom of religion for Muslims. How ridiculous of me to suggest that people who commit violence against Muslim believe otherwise.

    It’s quite funny that you’re accusing me of ‘hypothesizing’, considering that you believe that Jundullah is brave enough to utilize suicide bombings but simply too scared to announce their desire for a Sunni Islamic theocracy in Iran (although the group has explicitly said that it has no such desires). Again, your blatant hypocrisy is getting tiresome.

    But the only unruly mobs attacking religious minorities, playboy editors, cartoonists, alleged blasphemers, papal statements, Terry Jones and Danish embassies are Islamic.

    Unsurprisingly, you again bring up incidents in the Muslim world in an effort to justify your own bigotry and violence perpetrated against Muslims—just as I hypothesized. Oh well, I wouldn’t have anything better if I were you either.

    PS: https://www.loonwatch.com/2010/11/a-victory-for-the-constitution-ok-bill-struck-down/#comment-40306

    You still didn’t answer my question on that page.

On Gaffney’s Radio Show, Rep. King Suggests Muslims Aren’t American

On point piece from Sarah Posner, another writer who was an extraordinary “anti-Loon” in 2010. It goes to show that despite all of Rep. King’s protestations that his hearings are innocent of bigotry his statements prove otherwise.

On Gaffney’s Radio Show, Rep. King Suggests Muslims Aren’t American

by Sarah Posner (Religion Dispatches)

Lee Fang at Think Progress reports that Rep. Peter King (R-NY), chair of the House Homeland Security Committee who plans on holding hearings on the “radicalization” of American Muslims, said on Frank Gaffney’s radio program last week that Muslims aren’t real Americans in combatting terrorism:

Joining anti-Muslim conspiracy theorist Frank Gaffney on Gaffney’s radio program last week, King doubled down on his promise to launch a witch-hunt against Muslims. He repeated a falsehood that he stated earlier — that American Muslims never cooperate to combat terrorism. But in addition to this claim, King made the extraordinary smear that American Muslims aren’t “American” when it comes to war. “[W]hen a war begins,” King said, every ethnic and religious group unites as “Americans.” “But in this case,” King continued, referring to Muslims, “this is not the situation. … Whether it’s cultural tradition, whatever, the fact is the Muslim community does not cooperate anywhere near to the extent that it should.”

As I reported last week, Gaffney has disgusted some conservatives with his anti-Muslim bigotry; one Muslim conservative activist, Suhail Khan, told me that is why Gaffney has beenexcluded from next month’s Conservative Political Action Conference. Yet that doesn’t stop CPAC from including a group like the David Horowitz Freedom Center, which supportsFront Page magazine, which has promoted Gaffney’s work, including Gaffney’s smear of Khan.

As King’s willingness to appear on Gaffney’s radio show and affirm his notions that Muslims can’t be real Americans shows, Gaffney is not the pariah some in CPAC might contend he is. By way of another example, as I reported, Gaffney was appointed to the advisory board of the Clarion Fund, whose Islamophobic propaganda films have been promoted by current and former elected officials and the Republican Jewish Committee, and which plans to screen its latest documentary, Iranium, to lawmakers early next month.

Gaffney has been peddling the bogus claim that shari’ah law represents a real threat to the Constitution, and has called on Congress to “investigate” that as well. He employs someone who believes being Muslim should be criminalized. He brought that dog and pony show to Capitol Hill late last year for the benefit of House staffers, and spoke to a room of about 50 people. It surely is a deeply troubling development that King is cavorting with Gaffney and pontificating about the “Americanism” of American Muslims, in light of Gaffney’s agitation about fifth columns of shari’ah proponents bent on undermining the Constitution.

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    • muhammad ‘abd-al haqq

      How does supporting war indicate one’s “Americanness” of Muslims. dissent and freedom to dissent are just as American. nationalism is definitely the new tribalism. i am all for fighting terrorism, but nowadays joining the US military almost always guarantees that a Muslim soldier will be fighting fellow Muslims.Refusal to support war is not the same as aiding and abetting terrorist enemies.

      Allahu A’lam

    • Layla

      Gafney also appeared as an expert witness in the trial of the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro, TN. He told us that Sharia Law is taking over but he actually TESTIFIED in court that he is not an expert on Sharia Law.

    • mindy1

      oh, okay

    • Al

      No it was WWI, thus the fallout of Germany’s humiliating defeat where the Jews took an inactive role in the war movement (so the story goes…actually 100,000 Jews fought with Germany). Here is a link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stab-in-the-back_legend

    • mindy1

      @AL, that was WWII, but yes talk like that is disconcerting

    • Al

      “King made the extraordinary smear that American Muslims aren’t “American” when it comes to war. “[W]hen a war begins,” King said, every ethnic and religious group unites as “Americans.” “But in this case,” King continued, referring to Muslims, “this is not the situation. …”

      This sounds remarkably similiar to the German argument regarding the Jewish populace during WWI…

Frank Gaffney Thinks Some Conservatives are Muslim Brotherhood

Frank Gaffney

More wackiness from Gaffney.

Conservatives claim anti-tax crusader secretly leading Muslim indoctrination

(RAWstory)

Are a growing cross-section of American conservatives really secret Muslims bent on destroying western civilization?

Answer: No.

But that’s not stopping right-wing activist Frank Gaffney from claiming the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) had been infiltrated by radical Muslims because of the inclusion of Americans for Tax Reform president Grover Norquist and former Bush staffer Suhail Khan.

American Conservative Union (ACU), the oldest conservative lobbying organization in the country which hosts CPAC, is involved in a “stealthy effort to bring Shariah” to the United States, according to Gaffney.

“This is a ticking time bomb for the conservative community,” he told the conservative conspiracy website WorldNetDaily. “An influence operation is contributing materially to the defeat of our country.”

Gaffney alleges that Norquist and Khan are secretly working for the Muslim Brotherhood, a radical Islamist group, and trying to influence conservative groups in a plot to “Islamize” America. Both Khan and Norquist are ACU board members.

Khan, a conservative activist who previously worked for the Bush administration, allegedly has ties to the radical Islamists from his time as consultant for The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). He has also served on committees at the Islamic Society of North America, according to Gaffney.

Gaffney also claimed that Khan’s father was a founding member of the Muslim Brotherhood in America. In a report by Talking Points Memo, Khan called the allegation “laughable” and said his father was from India, noting that the Muslim Brotherhood was formed in Egypt.

He is now a senior fellow for Christian-Muslim Understanding at the Institute for Global Engagement.

Norquist, founder of the conservative Americans for Tax Reform, was also accused of secretly providing the Muslim Brotherhood with access into the highest reaches of the conservative movement.

“Grover Norquist is credentialing the perpetrators of this Muslim Brotherhood influence operation,” Gaffney said. “This is part of tradecraft, to get people who have standing in a community to give it to people who lack it, so they can do what they’re assigned to do in terms of subversion. We are in a war, and he has been working with the enemy for over a decade.”

Gaffney is no stranger to making wildly unsubstantiated claims. He said in 2009 that there was mounting evidence that President Barack Obama “not only identifies with Muslims, but actually may still be one himself.”

“The man now happy to have his Islamic-rooted middle name featured prominently has engaged in the most consequential bait-and-switch since Adolf Hitler duped Neville Chamberlain over Czechoslovakia at Munich,” he added.

CPAC was facing a boycott from a number of conservative groups for inviting the conservative gay Republican group GOProud to the conference. The Family Research Council, Concerned Women For America, American Values, the American Principles Project, the Capital Research Center, the Center for Military Readiness, Liberty Counsel, and Liberty University have said they will not attend the conference in February.

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    • Abdullah

      *sigh*

      Are my countrymen and women so stupid as to elect this dolt? It’s an INSANE amount of paranoia.

    • bintal3aasifeh

      This guy is real?

    • ProtoPat

      “Norquist, founder of the conservative Americans for Tax Reform, was also accused of secretly providing the Muslim Brotherhood with access into the highest reaches of the conservative movement.”

      So, the whole right-wing noise about the Park51 Islamic Community Center and the “creeping” Shariah Law in America was just a huge bluff to plant the seeds of Islamic domination of America?

    • Rob

      Be scared..buy my book.

    • FXG

      lol @surya dharma

  • Surya Dharma

    @Tarig & Yusuf. Watch out you guys. You blowing the perfectly good cover we had on Pinky (Commie) and the Brain (-y Mooslim)

Claims that the Gulen Movement is a CIA Front are Baseless

Last time we visited the Gulen Movement they were being accused of being radicals who had training camps across America. Now they are being accused of being a CIA front.

Islamic group is CIA front, ex-Turkish intel chief says

By Jeff Stein

A memoir by a top former Turkish intelligence official claims that a worldwide moderate Islamic movement based in Pennsylvania has been providing cover for the CIA since the mid-1990s.

The memoir, roughly rendered in English as “Witness to Revolution and Near Anarchy,” by retired Turkish intelligence official Osman Nuri Gundes, says the religious-tolerance movement, led by an influential former Turkish imam by the name of Fethullah Gulen, has 600 schools and 4 million followers around the world.

In the 1990s, Gundes alleges, the movement “sheltered 130 CIA agents” at its schools in Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan alone, according to a report on his memoir Wednesday by the Paris-based Intelligence Online newsletter.

The book has caused a sensation in Turkey since it was published last month.

Gulen could not be reached for comment.

But two ex-CIA officials with long ties to Central Asia cast doubt on Gundes’s charges.

Former CIA operative Robert Baer, chief of the agency’s Central Asia and Caucasus operations from 1995 through 1997, called the allegations bogus. “The CIA didn’t have any ‘agents’ in Central Asia during my tenure,” he said.

It’s possible, Baer granted, that the CIA “turned around this ship after I left,” but only the spy agency could say for sure, and the CIA does not comment on operational sources and methods.

A U.S. intelligence official, speaking on condition of anonymity, also said Gundes’s “accounts are ringing no bells whatsoever.”

Likewise, Graham Fuller, a former CIA station chief in Kabul and author of “The Future of Political Islam,” threw cold water on Gundes’s allegations about Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan.

“I think the story of 130 CIA agents in Gulen schools in Central Asia is pretty wild,” Fuller said by e-mail.

“I should hasten to add that I left CIA in 1987 — nearly 25 years ago — and I have absolutely no concrete personal knowledge whatsoever about this. But my instincts tell me the claim is highly improbable.”

Fuller added, “I cannot even imagine trying to credibly sell such a scheme with a straight face within the agency. As for Nuri Gundes, I am not aware of who he is or what he has written. But there is a lot of wild stuff floating around in Turkey on these issues and Gulen is a real hot button issue.”

Imam Gulen, “whose views are usually close to U.S. policy,” according to Intelligence Online, favors toleration of all religions, putting his movement in direct competition with al-Qaeda and other radical groups for the affection of Muslims across Central Asia, the Middle East and even Europe and Africa, where it has also expanded its reach.

Gundes, who was Istanbul station chief for Turkey’s MIT intelligence agency, “personally supervised several investigations into Gulen’s movement in the 1990s,” according to the newsletter’s report on his memoir, which has not been translated into English. The purpose of Gundes’s investigation was not immediately clear. His own religious views could not be determined, but the influence of radical Islamist forces in Turkey swelled in the 1990s.

The imam left Turkey in 1998 and settled in Saylorsburg, Pa., where the movement is headquartered. According to Intelligence Online, he obtained a residence permit only in 2008 with the help of Fuller and George Fidas, whom it described as head of the agency’s outreach to universities.

Fuller says that’s wrong.

“I did not recommend him for a residence permit or anything else. As for George Fidas, I have never even heard of him and don’t know who he is.”

“What I did do,” Fuller explained, “was write a letter to the FBI in early 2006 …at a time when Gulen’s enemies were pressing for his extradition to Turkey from the U.S. In the post 9/11 environment, they began spreading the word that he was a dangerous radical. In my statement to the FBI I offered my views…that I did not believe he posed a security threat of any kind to the U.S. I still believe that today, as do a large body of scholars on contemporary Islam.

“I do not at all consider Gulen a radical or dangerous.” Fuller continued. “Indeed in my view–and I have studied a lot of Islamist movements worldwide–his movement is perhaps one of the most encouraging in terms of the evolution of contemporary Islamic political and social thinking…”

Fidas could not be reached for comment, nor would the CIA answer questions about him. George Washington University’s Elliot School of International Affairs lists him as a visiting professor and “Director for Outreach in the Office of the Assistant Director of Central Intelligence for Analysis and Production.”

But the title was abolished when the Directorate of National Intelligence was created several years ago, an informed source said.

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    • Justin

      They’re not quite sure what Gulen is… except pure, unadulterated evil. Haha.

  • mindy1

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